Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I've noticed it and I'm annoyed by it. There isn't anything any of us can do about it, though. The staff might be able to address it, though. OMG! I just noticed. You're staff!
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A rise in anti-religious sentiment on the forums?
- Thread starter MoonWater
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I've noticed it and I'm annoyed by it. There isn't anything any of us can do about it, though. The staff might be able to address it, though. OMG! I just noticed. You're staff!
We can't do anything about people's sentiments, only the way they're expressed.
Morse
To Extinguish
I've noticed it and I'm annoyed by it. There isn't anything any of us can do about it, though. The staff might be able to address it, though. OMG! I just noticed. You're staff!
Staff: "Ahem, yes, I have an announcement to all Anti-Theists!!" *Claps hands together* "Due to a recent influx of your type, the ratio of Theists to Non-Theists has been changed too severely for our liking. We now ask approximately 23.91 of you to depart RF. Thank you."
If you cannot handle other peoples points of view IN THE DEBATE FORUM no less, close your eyes and ignore it (shouldn't be too hard, practice made perfect right?).
Sorry, I feel bad now, but the point remains.
Regards FtF,
Morse
OmarKhayyam
Well-Known Member
OK all kidding aside.
Assuming arguendo this compliant is true WHY is it a problem? You guys feel outnumbered, perhaps outgunned as well. So wha-a-a-t?
You might try some better arguments. Maybe LEARN something about what you don't believe in. Maybe (GASP) even consider that your beliefs MIGHT - just MIGHT - be wrong.
Why is your only position that we should shut up?
Assuming arguendo this compliant is true WHY is it a problem? You guys feel outnumbered, perhaps outgunned as well. So wha-a-a-t?
You might try some better arguments. Maybe LEARN something about what you don't believe in. Maybe (GASP) even consider that your beliefs MIGHT - just MIGHT - be wrong.
Why is your only position that we should shut up?
linwood
Well-Known Member
It`s been working for centuries why stop now?
MissAlice
Well-Known Member
Wow an anti-religious campaign?
Now I know I'm going to have to stick around for the drama!! :jester3:
Anyway why go into discussions of debate if you can't handle differences in point of view? It is my understanding that there is just as much debates among the people of faith as there are those without.
Might as well stick around safe discussions that don't contend one opposing view from another....
Now I know I'm going to have to stick around for the drama!! :jester3:
Anyway why go into discussions of debate if you can't handle differences in point of view? It is my understanding that there is just as much debates among the people of faith as there are those without.
Might as well stick around safe discussions that don't contend one opposing view from another....
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The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
Being only new here and an atheist i coudn't tell you.
However i know i am pretty guilty of the ridicule etc.
But when arguing a topic and a theist absolutely refuse to answer simple questions or even research the arguments they are making such tactics are the only recourse (except for bowing out of the discussion) A perfect example of this is some theists complete ignorance of the true theory or evolution and an absolute unwillingness to research it themselves or accept the corrections made to their misunderstandings by people who have.
However i know i am pretty guilty of the ridicule etc.
But when arguing a topic and a theist absolutely refuse to answer simple questions or even research the arguments they are making such tactics are the only recourse (except for bowing out of the discussion) A perfect example of this is some theists complete ignorance of the true theory or evolution and an absolute unwillingness to research it themselves or accept the corrections made to their misunderstandings by people who have.
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend MoonWater,
Sorry to state that personally take Religion to be just a PATH/WAY towards knowing the SELF and kindly remember that *ATHEISM* too is a pathless PATH.
It is just that they follow a different religion which is not boxed into any set pattern.
Kindly remember that those who come to RF! obviously is in search of their *SELF* but as mentioned their WAY/PATH could be any one even no-path.
Love & rgds
Sorry to state that personally take Religion to be just a PATH/WAY towards knowing the SELF and kindly remember that *ATHEISM* too is a pathless PATH.
It is just that they follow a different religion which is not boxed into any set pattern.
Kindly remember that those who come to RF! obviously is in search of their *SELF* but as mentioned their WAY/PATH could be any one even no-path.
Love & rgds
okay since a number of people brought this up let me make this clear. I nor anyone else here in this thread never once said that anyone needs to "shut up" nor is this thread about "not being able to handle opposing viewpoints". I specified "anti-religious sentiment" not "non-religious sentiment". It's not other people's view points I have trouble with, its when other people belittle and degrade other people and/or their viewpoints that I have a problem. And it just seems to me that this attitude has become more prevalent on RF particularly towards religion and the religious.
Jaiket put it best:
Jaiket put it best:
TheKnight
Guardian of Life
I have no problem with it so long as the Anti-(A)Theist attitude does not affect the intelligence level. It has a habit of doing that. I think more and more are beginning to discover this forum. It IS a good forum. And for all my time debating religion on the net, I had only discovered it a little while ago when I'd joined...
MissAlice
Well-Known Member
Well I haven't been on here long enough and my former post wasn't to offend but to humor.
I'll refrain next time from coming off offensive...whatever is considered offenssive besides ad hominem attacks. I realize the subject of religion is a highly sensative matter.
As for atheism being a pathless path....I think that would depend on the atheist. For me a path is learning from cause and effect.
I'll refrain next time from coming off offensive...whatever is considered offenssive besides ad hominem attacks. I realize the subject of religion is a highly sensative matter.
As for atheism being a pathless path....I think that would depend on the atheist. For me a path is learning from cause and effect.
I wasn't reffering to you in particular and i didn't find anything offensive in your post. Or were you speaking of avoiding offence in general rather than just that specific post?
Danarch
Robot!
Noticed yes. Concerned no.
Partly it may be just the normal changing of the posting population ebb and flow kind of thing.
IF IF there is something more to it it may just be the rise of secularism in general in the US. We have been quiet for a long time. The RR has made a great noise the past few years and continues to do so. They have been more honest and open about what they plan for us and perhaps we are just mad as hell and won't take it anymore.
I have no hard evidence for this and make no strong claim. Just - maybe.
MissAlice
Well-Known Member
Ok, I was just wondering. I didn't know whether my post came off offensive or not.
Not sure I understand. When I said I'm fairly new here I was hinting that I'm not sure what could be taken as offensive to people of faith besides ad hominems and insulting insinuations. As an agnostic I've debated with both atheists and religious fundementalists. So it is not easy for me to clump together a group of people especially those who lack a faith in a god or gods.
I guess in short I'm confused as I don't know what's been going on with the attitude of atheists being here.
OmarKhayyam
Well-Known Member
What has been going on is that some of us have been saying out loud what we have been thinking for some time. The (self described) more tender, loving, kind hearted and sensitive among us are aghast to learn we really DO think what they believe is not simply wrong but childish and shallow.
That revelation has been shocking to their sense that a healthy humanity requires the belief in a supernatural loving god. They feel themselves besieged by an army of hateful devil worshipers who have dared to suggest that their most cherished and deeply beliefs are little more than than silly illusions.
In a word - how DARE we be so - so - insensitive !
That revelation has been shocking to their sense that a healthy humanity requires the belief in a supernatural loving god. They feel themselves besieged by an army of hateful devil worshipers who have dared to suggest that their most cherished and deeply beliefs are little more than than silly illusions.
In a word - how DARE we be so - so - insensitive !
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Its been like that for a while now, and many of us are discussing this on certain forums.
It has certainly lowered the level of discussion and debate that made me join the forum. no more are the days I would log in to find numerous stimulating threads, who may or may not be exclusively about religious topics.
I think many people cannot differentiate between constructive criticism and mindless flame baits.
It seems that some people lack the ability to discuss existing phenomena, that will keep existing for quite a while, with or without their ridicule, further more they spray their ridicule indiscriminately, on the moderate and the extreme a like. not the kind of generalizing that gives a good fiber to a forum.
OmarKhayyam
Well-Known Member
Poor baby.:sad: Pity these religious folk. They are SO put upon.
'Why can't those godless heathens (blight on humanity that they are) just acknowledge that religious faith is the sine qua non for a human existence? Instead they push this logic reason and fact mantra totally ignoring the simple fact that these are all the flawed inventions of godless men.
The time is out of joint. But we are called by God to set it right.'
That about it?
'Why can't those godless heathens (blight on humanity that they are) just acknowledge that religious faith is the sine qua non for a human existence? Instead they push this logic reason and fact mantra totally ignoring the simple fact that these are all the flawed inventions of godless men.
The time is out of joint. But we are called by God to set it right.'
That about it?