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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Riders, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. Riders

    Riders Well-Known Member

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    So I'm sure some Christians here think Earth based and other folks only want to pick on them but no I have a criticism for my own faith. I'm Zen Buddhist UU and Pagan. This is a thing Ive wanted to say something about for awhile.

    I've been told this by 3 different Pagans. say this to me and heard it said a few times on other forums to people and I'm embarrassed to see people make this statement its unbelievable.

    So I read half the Twilight book and I liked the first Twilight movie. So Ok Pagans and others say its junk, I have no issues with that I think its fair for those to criticize my taste on that. twilight, maybe just junka s everyone says,I don't personally read or watch movies with the expectation of a good movie or intelligent writing sometimes I watch stuff for the fun of it.

    I like the music. the scenery is cool, the scenes, the hot sexy guy who plays Jake.( I'm like OMG are you kidding me she fell for Edward? Hes not even half as hot as Jacob OMG) the idea of a Vampire falling in love with a human its fun ok.

    So when I get criticism about how unintelligent it is stupid I'm fine and dandy with that that's fine, I let it roll off my back.


    Before I put the criticism up let me just say I know Pagans some of us believe in real Vampires. I actually think I have some PSi Vampire in me ,I don't know what I think about folks who actually drink blood except to say I think drinking human blood is wrong because it makes you sick.


    2 different Pagans 2 count them 2 ,it must be a popular thing for Pagans who believe in real Vampires to say to Twilight fans they said this to me:

    So here goes" You know Elizabeth there is such a thing as real Vampires, do you know that real Vampires don't twinkle like Edward and have fangs and have supernatural powers like Edward that they don't eat people and fly and all that you do know Twilights not real right?

    OMG OMG I cant believe it first place I am not an 8 year old, I'm 50 years old its like they're talking to a child. But I honestly think Because I've seen this confrontment with other people that they actually believe that, they believe that people believe in supernatural beings called vampires like Buffy The Vampire Slayer are real.

    What on Gods freaking green earth would make you think such a ridiculous thing.
    There is no such thing as that unless your talking about a child, now if your talking to a 10 year old I might understand , but a grown adult OMG, unless theyre psychotic and don't know the difference between fantasy and reality and maybe burned out on a bunch of drugs. WTHELL?

    SO that's my confrontment anyways I figure someone might want to dump on twilight again go ahead I'm ready LOL?
     
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  2. The Ragin Pagan

    The Ragin Pagan Мы дети Богов

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    Sadly, I've met a few adults that believe the romanticized vampire myth.
     
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  3. Riders

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    That's crazy tell them they need to check into the psycho ward and be checked for psychosis or else get off their drugs.
     
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    Its funny they mention I guess they expect Twilight fans to fans of Edwards yea do you think vampires sparle like Edward I never paid much attention to Edward I didn't think he was that great. I liked Jake instead.
     
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    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    I drink human blood at mass...I love the alcohol content! :D
     
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  7. CogentPhilosopher

    CogentPhilosopher Philosophy Student

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    How is critizing what a couple of pagans think about a movie a criticism of paganism as a whole?

    Also I used to believe that I was a psychic vampire and used to be a pagan. So I get where you are coming from.
     
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    CogentPhilosopher Philosophy Student

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    Jake was not a werewolf in the Twilight Saga.

    It is explained in the books that the tribe is composed of shapeshifters, actual werewolves are mentioned but they are apparently rare as they have been hunted down by the Volturi.
     
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    I did hear it was a tribe in the movie but I didn't read the book all the way through seeing that he looked like a wolf sorry I'm calling him a wolf. I have no idea what shapeshifters are and they look like wolves so I'm calling him a wolf and they scratch and bite like wolves too.
     
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    I also saw him as an actor forgot his name in that other movie about being Kidnappaed a boy who was raised by parents who wern;t his blood parents his dad worked for the FBI or CIA or whatever it was did you see that? WHEW! This chick is a fan whoowee
     
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  12. The Ragin Pagan

    The Ragin Pagan Мы дети Богов

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    Shapeshifters are indigenous American "creatures" that are essentially werewolves, but not cursed or bloodthirsty monsters. They can merely take the form of a wolf, rather than having a forced transformation into a man-like wolf creature.
     
  13. CogentPhilosopher

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    Please quote me when you respond, otherwise I do not get a notification.

    Wolf =/= Werewolf

    In the lore there where Spirit Warriors that could exit their bodies as spirits. Eventually one spirit warrior possessed the chief while he was outside of his body and took his place. So the chief bonded with a wolf and took him as his body. When he confronted the imposter the wolf body could not handle the human emotions he was having and thus changed into a man. After taking his place back he decreeded that there would be no more spirit warriors in order to stop that from happening again. The chief's male descendants became the shapeshifters. The only known excepton to this is an infertile female.
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    The devil you say! Vampires aren't real! Next thing you'll be telling me is that there is no monster under my bed nor in my closet. Yeah, right..
     
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    You lost me here. What does this have to do with contemporary Paganism again?
     
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  17. Riders

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    Many Pagans believe in real vampires and get too caught up in the fluffy drama of silly stuff like making fun of vampire movies. Its just ridiculous. I think its just a sign that some people take their beliefs in vampirism too seriously.
     
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    I can't say I've ever observed that in the community. Even if I had, I don't see what it has to do with Paganism, specifically. Vampire fandom and fantasy extends well beyond the Pagan community, and I'm not aware of any Pagan tradition that incorporates vampire fandom into its religious creeds, doctrines, or practices. In short, I don't understand why you are pointing the finger at Pagans instead of simply "people who believe in real vampires and get too caught up in yada yada yada."
     
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    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    Certainly, such adolescent silliness isn't limited to pagans - just as it isn't limited to adolescents.
     
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    Seems no crazier than any other supernatural belief. Folks have the ability to believe in God, Allah any number of pagan deities why not vampires. It all has equal validity to me, which is to say none, if a person chooses to believe in one of these things, that's up to them. If someone chooses to believe in Voodoo or magic it's fine with me as long as they don't expect any credibility from me without evidence to back them up.
     
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