I like atheists too much to bash. Besides I believe in non- violenceAbsence of evidence for God, Soul, and promotion of unscientific views by religions.
Adrian, you cannot bash the atheists. (Moreover, you are a Mod)
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I like atheists too much to bash. Besides I believe in non- violenceAbsence of evidence for God, Soul, and promotion of unscientific views by religions.
Adrian, you cannot bash the atheists. (Moreover, you are a Mod)
Thanks for the thorough response. I like the personal perspective. Having no belief in God is as natural for you as it is for me to be a God believer. That is your experience in life. Unless you have some huge epiphany or personal experience with God, why change?
Throughout my first 20 years of life I fluctuated between Christianity and agnosticism. Like many teenagers I went through long periods where I didn’t think much about God at all. However I didn’t conclude there wasn’t a God.
It didn’t become important to definitively answer questions of a metaphysical nature until my 20s. That led to exploring other religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and the Baha’i Faith as well as reconnecting with my Christian roots. I had a year where I consciously decided there probably was no God and lived life without prayer. Things didn’t go well but when I turned my attention to God again, life quickly improved. I returned to the Christian church. I also checked out the Buddhists and Baha’is. Eventually I decided to become a Baha’i.
We all have our journey in life and yours makes sense as to why your worldview doesn’t include God.
Thanks for sharing.
Is it my imagination or are there a lot of atheists on RF?
That's true, the most unproven.
God is sure a sneaky one isn't He, hiding out like this all these years.
It's kind of amazing He has any followers at all.
I haven’t seen any pink unicorns either and don’t expect to soon. In that sense the analogy is a useful one. However most people don’t believe in unicorns whereas most people believe in God or gods. Why do you think that is?
There is certainly a vast body of literature that examines Theistic beliefs within philosophy. If it was so clear, why are so many philosophers theists?
The problem of a world with suffering and evil is central to Theism vs atheism debates.
Ah yes, the God of Abraham whom I worship and adore
I certainly have a different narrative.
Thanks for the post. It’s great to hear all the reasons God can’t and doesn’t exist. It’s exactly what I was hoping for when I started this thread.
Is it my imagination or are there a lot of atheists on RF?
I could call it Atheist's lack of perceptionwhich cannot be verified outside of the individual mind for the concept remains purely that, for the existence of any deity created by the process of fallible man's imagination.
I could call it Atheist's lack of perception
A person living/seeing 3 dimensions is unable to see the fourth dimension. That is a fact.Perception would fall under the empirical evidence category.
The fact is, however, that no one has seen god, yet we can all agree on sight what a tree is.
Not quite.So your evidence is the perception of how the opposing points of view don’t appear convincing?
I'm an atheist because i haven't been convince to believe at least one deity exists as real being.We all believe what we do for some reason. I’m a theist and believe in the God of Abraham. That God I believe is concerned for humanity and for each one of us. Out of His love for us all He’s guided us through His Great Educators such as Christ, Muhammad, the Buddha and Krishna to name a few. What I believe makes perfect sense to me but I can see merit in arguments that would reject such a view. I believe in God because:
1/ It seems rational
2/ It resonates with my experience in life
3/ It works practically.
An atheist could use exactly the same argument of course. I tried atheism for about a year but it was the worst year of my life. Some atheists would probably say the same about their experiences of theism. So I can see how atheism makes sense. It just doesn’t work for me.
Why do you believe what you do? We’re in the religious debates section so feel free to debate. I might too...who knows!? I don’t really like atheist verses theist debates. This could be s first. Let’s see how we go.
That's close to my own thoughts. My experiences have caused me to accept that there is something beyond the logical mind that people use the word "God" for.
As to theism vs atheism, I don't really care. If I care about anything is what someone does with his or her belief. To me, an atheist who tries to live a life of truth, justice and compassion is closer to the mark than a believer who does not try to put the beliefs into practice.
It seems simple enough to me. How many gods (as the person understands the term "god") does a person accept as existing in reality?I accept there are difficulties and controversies in defining atheism reflecting in part a spectrum or range of beliefs. It seems best at the outset that each atheist or theist define their beliefs.
Deism (belief in a non-interventionist creator-god) is just a subset of theism (god belief in general)... though this tends not to sit well with some theists I've encountered.Deism can also have a range of beliefs.
Atheism for me is about what I can experience through my outer sensesWhy do you believe what you do? We’re in the religious debates section so feel free to debate. I might too...who knows!? I don’t really like atheist verses theist debates. This could be s first. Let’s see how we go.
Belief in God makes perfect sense to me as all evidence confirms.
But it’s not just a head thing but of the heart.
I had what sounds like a similar experience from the other side.An atheist could use exactly the same argument of course. I tried atheism for about a year but it was the worst year of my life. Some atheists would probably say the same about their experiences of theism. So I can see how atheism makes sense. It just doesn’t work for me.