PoetPhilosopher
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What about those people who don't want to go? University was never for me and I have never needed it.
I don't know. But there are some certification programs like CompTIA A+ that are like an in-between.
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What about those people who don't want to go? University was never for me and I have never needed it.
What about apprenticeships? Just finding a job? Very few people went to Uni in the 50s and their wages were way, way better.I don't know. But there are some certification programs like CompTIA A+ that are like an in-between.
Would FIFTEEN (as in FIGHT for FIFTEEN) cut it to meet the above requirements?
What about those people who don't want to go? University was never for me and I have never needed it.
It has to be a local decision. Say, $15/hr in CA is peanuts but more in, say, Alabama.Congress has never let the federal minimum wage erode for this long
What is the minimum a single-person household adult American needs to truly earn a living income?
I would be similar to the power to tax income, probably. If it may tax income then surely it may regulate it. Instead it should not be messing with income at all. It uses the income tax as some kind of subsidy gimmick, too.I wonder....
Under what constitutional power could the fed require
every employer in every state to pay a minimum wage?
Yes, this is exactly what I'm saying.What about the days when my father and grandfather earned good union-scale pay in California doing skilled trades with only a HS diploma? A college degree is not necessary to operate a bulldozer as a union Operating Engineer wire a new home as an electrician contractor.
We need to promote the traditional industrial arts in America and re-establish manufacturing, civil engineering and infrastructure.
GI Bills, federal loans and Pell Grants should be also available for trade schools, technical schools and apprenticeship programs
Our roads, dams, locks, levees, buildings, streets, tunnels, wharves, railroads, water mains, reservoirs, flood management infrastructure, public street lighting, power lines, sewage systems, water management systems, waste and pollution management systems, water reclamation systems and bridges are crumbling and the "service industry" is no cure for that.
I wonder....
Under what constitutional power could the fed require
every employer in every state to pay a minimum wage?
Congress has never let the federal minimum wage erode for this long
What is the minimum a single-person household adult American needs to truly earn a living income?
The 16th Amendment authorized that.I would be similar to the power to tax income, probably.
The 16th Amendment could be interpreted to regulate wages?If it may tax income then surely it may regulate it.
That confers the right of the fed to regulate wages in all the states?We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
That confers the right of the fed to regulate wages in all the states?
A mission statement like that, if treated broadly as law, could be used to
authorize anything which government believes serves those purposes.
It could essentially gut the rest of the Constitution.
Example:
Censoring political speech could be rationalized to ensure domestic tranquility.
Does the preamble take priority over the 1st Amendment?
Over the 10th?
Nah.
I don't think a preamble should be read to grant vague powers without limit.
Let's also consider the Enumerated Powers clause, & the 10th Amendment....
The 10th:
'The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited
by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Enumerated powers:
Article One of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia
If the power to regulate wages isn't enumerated in the Constitution, this would mean
that the states have that authority.
I think we can all agree that laws aren't necessarily constitutional orThe Federal minimum wage sets the national standard, but states are allowed to set a higher minimum wage.
Since the Federal minimum has existed for many decades and has not been declared unconstitutional, it would appear that there are those in high places who believe it is constitutional.
If it wasn't, then I would imagine somebody would have brought a lawsuit by now. (I'm sure there probably has already been, but I'm too lazy to look such things up on a Saturday morning.)
Minimum wages were designed for entry level jobs, and no one was expected to stay in one very long.Congress has never let the federal minimum wage erode for this long
What is the minimum a single-person household adult American needs to truly earn a living income?
It depends on where you live. Where I life $15 x 40 hrs. per week would be survivable, but just barely. But in many locations it would not be enough.Would FIFTEEN (as in FIGHT for FIFTEEN) cut it to meet the above requirements?
That would be interesting. If the Coast got wages that high, would they apply to the whole state?It should be commensurate with the rate of inflation.
As an example, in 1971, my grandfather bought a house in Santa Ana, California for $28,000. That same house is worth $629,204 today (according to Zillow), 22.47 times its value from almost 50 years ago.
The minimum wage in 1971 was $1.60 per hour. $1.60 x 22.47 = $35.95 per hour = should be the minimum wage today.
It would be overkill in rural Indiana, where those wages will let you live like royalty.It depends on where you live. Where I life $15 x 40 hrs. per week would be survivable, but just barely. But in many locations it would not be enough.
Yup. And far too many people just do not have the ability, option, or choice to get a better job. They shouldn't be punished for that.IMO If your wage doesn't cover every single living expense you have to pay in order to live in the modern world, plus some small luxuries every once in a while, it's not worth being called a wage and should be illegal.