Five black police officers charged with murder of black man after traffic stop

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Dude all I can do is give you the link with graph.

You can take it anyway you choose. But I wouldn't call whites saints with around 50% being incarcerated.

Okay, you don't do statistical analysis. Got it.

For example, to suppose the whites being "around 50% incarcerated" is clearly nonsensical.

 

[We Never Know]

Okay, you don't do statistical analysis. Got it.

For example, to suppose the whites being "around 50% incarcerated" is clearly nonsensical.

Learn to read a graph.

You want to make it more than what it is.

Here's the graph again read it as it is, understand why the lines go up and down from left to right and quit taking it personal.

 

[Aštra’el]

Do you mean this one?(see below)
The left is % they make up of the population.
The right is % they make up of the prison population.

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If black people do commit more crimes in America than other races, despite being a minority…. it is not about genetics, it is about individuals acting of their own accord to break the law, who then get arrested and end up spending time in prison.

Many own up to it and come out stronger. Others blame it on “the white man” or “systemic racism”, and/or forever blame everyone else for their own actions, never accepting that they themselves are the problem. These types exist in every race.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Learn to read a graph.

You want to make it more than what it is.

Here's the graph again read it as it is, understand why the lines go up and down from left to right and quit talking it personal.

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For the third time, I am not taking it personally -- I am asking you to say WHY you think such an odd disparity should be the case.

If you haven't understood what I'm asking this time -- well let's give it up.

But let me try to give you a tiny hint, and another try:

Students, please write an essay on why, in a nation with a large majority of white people, in which, at one time, a large majority of the black people within it were slaves, and why their respective populations are inversely represented in the prison system.

Don't want to do it? Then don't -- I can't fail you. But I can understand you better.

 

[We Never Know]

For the third time, I am not taking it personally -- I am asking you to say WHY you think such an odd disparity should be the case.

If you haven't understood what I'm asking this time -- well let's give it up.

But let me try to give you a tiny hint, and another try:

Students, please write an essay on why, in a nation with a large majority of white people, in which, at one time, a large majority of the black people within it were slaves, and why their respective populations are inversely represented in the prison system.

Don't want to do it? Then don't -- I can't fail you. But I can understand you better.

So far you are they only one that thinks its "such an odd disparity".

Maybe you should explain why you think its "such an odd disparity".

What makes it "such an odd disparity" to you?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

So far you are they only one that thinks its "such an odd disparity".

Maybe you should explain why you think its "such an odd disparity".

What makes it "such an odd disparity" to you?

That graph is quite explicit -- it says:

As a percentage of their numbers relative to the population, blacks are incarcerated at a rate of 5 1/2 times the rate of whites. That's all. Not complicated at all. Extrapolated out, it means that if the populations of whites and blacks were about equal, and there were 1 million whites in prison, there would be 5.5 million blacks in prison.

Now, that means something. Either blacks are intrinsically evil and whites intrinsically much less so -- or there is something else going on.

So, will you now say, "Blacks are more intrinsically evil or criminal than whites?" Or will you consider whether there is some other explanation?

 

[We Never Know]

That graph is quite explicit -- it says:

As a percentage of their numbers relative to the population, blacks are incarcerated at a rate of 5 1/2 times the rate of whites. That's all. Not complicated at all. Extrapolated out, it means that if the populations of whites and blacks were about equal, and there were 1 million whites in prison, there would be 5.5 million blacks in prison.

Now, that means something. Either blacks are intrinsically evil and whites intrinsically much less so -- or there is something else going on.

So, will you now say, "Blacks are more intrinsically evil or criminal than whites?" Or will you consider whether there is some other explanation?

"Either blacks are intrinsically evil and whites intrinsically much less so -- or there is something else going on"

Basically you can't understand or accept that blacks may get into trouble more than whites(if that is what is happening)

When you figure it out and decide whats what, let me know.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

"Either blacks are intrinsically evil and whites intrinsically much less so -- or there is something else going on"

Basically you can't understand or accept that blacks may get into trouble more than whites(if that is what is happening)

When you figure it out and decide whats what, let me know.

Oh, with just a little more thought, you might find your way to understanding! Sadly, you seem unable to make that leap -- but let me give you a leg up: Try answering this question:

"If blacks get into trouble more than whites, in a white-dominated society, does that say more about what blacks are doing, or about what whites are doing?"

But in the meantime, your post was a complete duck. It seems to me that you are unwilling to try to even think about the question.

 

[We Never Know]

Oh, with just a little more thought, you might find your way to understanding! Sadly, you seem unable to make that leap -- but let me give you a leg up: Try answering this question:

"If blacks get into trouble more than whites, in a white-dominated society, does that say more about what blacks are doing, or about what whites are doing?"

But in the meantime, your post was a complete duck. It seems to me that you are unwilling to try to even think about the question.

Ok. You seem to want me to villainize someone.
Save your breath, its not going to happen.

 

[Revoltingest]

Okay, you don't do statistical analysis. Got it.

For example, to suppose the whites being "around 50% incarcerated" is clearly nonsensical.

The graph/chart makes sense to me.
Both sides are about the relative population
of USA as a whole vs state prisons.
So 62% of Americans are white.
And 32% of state prisoners are white.

 

[We Never Know]

The graph/chart makes sense to me.
Both sides are about the relative population
of USA as a whole vs state prisons.
So 62% of Americans are white.
And 32% of state prisoners are white.

Exactly!

 

[fantome profane]

Basically you can't understand or accept that blacks may get into trouble more than whites(if that is what is happening)

I can’t accept that.

Even if that were true I would not just accept it, I would want an explanation. You can’t just shrug something like that off and say that is just the way it is.

And for the record I do not believe it is true, it is absurd on the face of it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Oh, with just a little more thought, you might find your way to understanding! Sadly, you seem unable to make that leap -- but let me give you a leg up: Try answering this question:

"If blacks get into trouble more than whites, in a white-dominated society, does that say more about what blacks are doing, or about what whites are doing?"

But in the meantime, your post was a complete duck. It seems to me that you are unwilling to try to even think about the question.

What do you mean by white dominated society?

 

[We Never Know]

I can’t accept that.

Even if that were true I would not just accept it, I would want an explanation. You can’t just shrug something like that off and say that is just the way it is.

And for the record I do not believe it is true, it is absurd on the face of it.

All you have to do is show things differently.

 

[We Never Know]

I can’t accept that.

Even if that were true I would not just accept it, I would want an explanation. You can’t just shrug something like that off and say that is just the way it is.

And for the record I do not believe it is true, it is absurd on the face of it.

Take 62%(whites) of the population and put 32% of them in prison.
Then take 12%(blacks) of the population and put 34% of them in prison.

By numbers, who has the most numbers in prison. (numbers, not %)

 

[fantome profane]

Take 62%(whites) of the population and put 32% of them in prison.
Then take 12%(blacks) of the population and put 34% of them in prison.

By numbers, who has the most numbers in prison. (numbers, not %)

Yes, a disproportionate percentage of blacks are in prison. (your numbers are nonsense, but the point you are making is true)

The question is why are there a disproportionate percentage of blacks in prison? And it is not because they are more prone to commit criminal acts.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes, a disproportionate percentage of blacks are in prison. (your numbers are nonsense, but the point you are making is true)

The question is why are there a disproportionate percentage of blacks in prison? And it is not because they are more prone to commit criminal acts.

Its not my numbers lol. I provided the link and chart.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes, a disproportionate percentage of blacks are in prison. (your numbers are nonsense, but the point you are making is true)

The question is why are there a disproportionate percentage of blacks in prison? And it is not because they are more prone to commit criminal acts.

"And it is not because they are more prone to commit criminal acts"

That's not for me to decide. .

 

[fantome profane]

Its not my numbers lol. I provided the link and chart.

But you haven’t understood it.

 

[We Never Know]

But you haven’t understood it.

Yes I do. Concerning the population....

Numbers wise there are more whites in prison.

% wise there are more blacks in prison.

The question is why is that? Crying its false or I don't understand doesn't change that.