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Do you read the Bible at all?Do you read my post at all??? I repeat: " Jesus has not wanted to die. "
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Do you read the Bible at all?Do you read my post at all??? I repeat: " Jesus has not wanted to die. "
I think it boils down to a very simple fact; If people give doctors and hospitals more money to actually help reduce their suffering in this life, they won't be able to give as much money to priests and churches to purportedly help reduce their suffering in the next.Discuss this from a religious and ethical point of view.
Antonio, 44 anni, potrà accedere al suicidio assistito. È il secondo in Italia
Eutanasia legale, primo sì dopo il caso Cappato.
There is a de facto depenalization of assisted suicide, thanks to Italy's Supreme Court of Cassation's ruling number 242/ 2019 that makes the assisted suicide "not punishable" wherever the patient is in an irreversible condition of pain and psychological suffering.
What did Jesus do in the Garden that night? Praying: "kill me, Father!" No, Jesus tried to escape death.Do you read the Bible at all?
Well...that's a good point, the monetary aspect.I remember back when Dr. Kevorkian was offering his services for assisted suicide. They disparagingly called him "Dr. Death," but if he was ending the suffering of terminally ill patients who had no chance of recovery, I couldn't see why anyone would have had a problem with it.
However, I can see where doctors and hospitals would make more money and higher profits if they can drag out someone's suffering as long as possible.
It's like we share one brain!I see prolonging a patient’s life against their wishes to be unethical and ultimately rather selfish. It is Adharmic (immoral) to me
Demanding they suffer for as long as humanly possible, without offering a humane alternative.
Of course people with suicidal thoughts should be helped by mental health professionals. But I would rather allow a person die with dignity, surrounded by friends and family (or even just some nice hospice staff.)
He also didn't anything to prevent it, even though he had the chance. I'd call it suicide by Roman.
I have a coupon good for one free visit to him.I remember back when Dr. Kevorkian was offering his services for assisted suicide.
- IMO, trying to block the availability of medical assistance in dying is unethical.Discuss this from a religious and ethical point of view.
By fleeing from Jerusalem?What did Jesus do in the Garden that night? Praying: "kill me, Father!" No, Jesus tried to escape death.
It was a secret place. It is not the sin of Jesus. It was betrayal.By fleeing from Jerusalem?
In all seriousness though, I wouldn't characterize being willing to lay down your life for a greater cause to be a form of suicide. You'd have to say that all people who volunteer to fight in the armed services in time of war, are suicidal.By fleeing from Jerusalem?
Antonio, 44 anni, potrà accedere al suicidio assistito. È il secondo in Italia
Eutanasia legale, primo sì dopo il caso Cappato.
There is a de facto depenalization of assisted suicide, thanks to Italy's Supreme Court of Cassation's ruling number 242/ 2019 that makes the assisted suicide "not punishable" wherever the patient is in an irreversible condition of pain and psychological suffering.
I accept that but our language is flexible enough to include both cases. E.g. people who blow themselves up for a higher cause are still called suicide bombers. And someone who needs assistance in suicide needs even more assistance in life. They may have altruistic motives (additional to their personal ones) in freeing relatives from having to care for them.In all seriousness though, I wouldn't characterize being willing to lay down your life for a greater cause to be a form of suicide. You'd have to say that all people who volunteer to fight in the armed services in time of war, are suicidal.
Clearly, there is an entirely different mindset there between being willing to die for the greater good, and choosing to terminate one's own life due to personal pain and suffering. The latter is a choice to terminate your own life, for your own personal reasons, even if it is "suicide by cop", for instance.
Obviously, then, you don't believe in the Trinity -- because in that interpretation, Jesus and God are one person (along with the Holy Ghost). That of course, makes Jesus's statement "If this cup cannot pass by, but I must drink it, Your will be done!" (Matthew 26:42) a little difficult to interpret, doesn't it?What did Jesus do in the Garden that night? Praying: "kill me, Father!" No, Jesus tried to escape death.
Like someone getting it just cuz they feel like a burden to family and not cuz they actually are in pain.
Well that's an interesting comparison. But a suicide bomber isn't exactly wanting to terminate their own life because they no longer wish to be alive. It's technically not suicide in that sense of the word. It's more a technique to kill the enemy in battle. In WWll they called them "kamikaze". I don't think we would consider someone who hung themselves because of depression, to be a kamikaze.I accept that but our language is flexible enough to include both cases. E.g. people who blow themselves up for a higher cause are still called suicide bombers. And someone who needs assistance in suicide needs even more assistance in life. They may have altruistic motives (additional to their personal ones) in freeing relatives from having to care for them.
As I said to @questfortruth already, you may call it self sacrifice but it is still a form of suicide.