Dinesh D'Sousa Blows the Lid off Democrat lies about Election Fraud

[Guitar's Cry]

And yet there is no evidence of this. All there is are claims on the Republican side.

D'Souza should have known that he is not a credible source. He is a convicted felon that owes his freedom to an immoral pardon by Trump. He poisoned the well by attaching his name to this project.

True the Vote, the conservative organization that gathered the evidence, isn't exactly squeaky clean. They are clearly biased, and they have been accused of forging signatures and voter intimidation tactics: True the Vote - Wikipedia

 

[KW]

300,000 million?!??! That's like 300 billion dollars!!

Should be $300 million

 

[KW]

More of this?

How does this implicate either candidate's campaign specifically?

How many times do claims like this have to be thrown out of various courts?

It may not ever come to a court, but this exposure will make it much more difficult for democrats to do this again.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Why are some of the members incapable of discussing their political differences without hating each other -- or at least giving every appearance of doing so?

There is no respect going either direction, just contempt.

At the risk of sounding like some curmudgeonly old person, it is kind of weird how much both sides seem to utterly loathe each other these days. There used to be something of a “coated civility” in politics that seems utterly lost.

Once, the American left and right shared many core values, so-called American values, such as democracy and the rule of law. The two sides referred to one another as the loyal opposition to reflect both these similarities and differences.

They showed one another forbearance, meaning that even though the parties had different ideas of what would lead to a safe, prosperous future for Americans, they were still trying to accomplish that. The two parties both respected the Constitution, showed one another mutual respect, acknowledged that the other party not only had a right to participate and should be treated as friend and loyal opposition, but played an important role in governance of the nation just as gas and brake, though opposite, are each necessary in concert to successfully move the vehicle forward. Those were the days when unity and bipartisanship were not just possible, but common, and productive.

That all died, beginning with the rise of Newt Gingrich and Republican scorched earth politics, who famously answered when asked why the House was looking for Clinton's impeachment rather than mere censure, "Because we can." That was the death of forbearance. It might not have been immediately obvious that this attitude would eventually inform everything the Republicans would do, but that's where America is now.

How should liberals feel about the people that support this party and it's attendant media minions, the one that considers liberal and Communist synonyms, the one that teaches as we see on this thread that liberals are morally corrupt and disloyal? How should liberals respond to a thread like this one, which embodies venomous contempt for the opposition? This poster didn't come to these opinions in a vacuum. This is the Republican message, very familiar by now and easily recognized for what it is, and unfortunately, dominates the thinking of a too-large fraction of Americans.

It really feels like Lord of the Flies in America now, the Republicans being vicious, lawless, angry, might-makes-right, racist, gaslighting, authoritarian ideologues cozying up to and publicly admiring dictators. How should an American liberal feel about these people - fellow Americans, the loyal opposition? No. They're enemy, as surely as the Soviet Union was and Russia still is. And the internal struggle between these incompatible ideologies is another cold war, but this time, a cold civil war.

 

[wellwisher]

True the Vote, the conservative organization that gathered the evidence, isn't exactly squeaky clean. They are clearly biased, and they have been accused of forging signatures and voter intimidation tactics: True the Vote - Wikipedia

Anyone can write to Wikipedia. It is an open platform where anyone can add detail. Its is supposed to done in an honest and scholarly way, but partisans found they can cheat the truth this way. A fun exercise is to research the Bio of someone hated by one of the political parties, and see if you can figure out which partisan wrote what.

Before this week, Twitter was the main source of information for the Left Wing Media buzz. Leftist journalists are lazy and incompetent and would parrot the buzz, since it was a form of marching coordinated orders from above. Twitter would censor alternate POV, that were not with the program set by the DNC and Swamp. This one-sided news from the town square news stream; with its hidden trap doors, made it easy to fool many people into thinking, since this was all you would read, this meant this was based on truth and on consensus. All the opposition was blacked out so what you assumed was not the whole truth but sold as such.

This scam is about to change, with free speech coming back to the town square of Twitter. The con artists will not enjoy free reign to lie and con the masses anymore via biased blackouts. The left wing Journalists will also not enjoy the lazy way, anymore. They will have to defend bad ideas, while being trained to be incompetent parrots who are better designed for repeating in five part harmony.

The Democrats do have some good ideas, but they are **** poor when it comes to implementation. They always end up creating money pits due to their incompetence in practical matters. The Affordable Care Act sounded good, but did the word affordable really mean that health care cost will rise? This mantra was swamp land being sold as pristine farm land. Who needs a $1billion website anyway? Incompetent people.

The Democrats are good at marketing bad ideas, due to their control over the media and censorship. However, they are poor at implementation, since implementation requires that fantasy has to deal with practical reality and all its pitfalls.

Now the Democrats cannot hide their bad ideas behind one-sided marketing, censorship and lazy partisan reporters. In the future, all their marketing scams will be subject to scrutiny. This will save the tax payer from all the future money pits the Democrats learned to use for their various money laundering scams.

Speaking of money laundering, there was an article about COVID money in Democrats states being used to teach CRT via the Department of Education. Money pits require too much resources with much often not accounted for. This excess allows a way to skim and divert the original bipartisan moneys, into pet partisan projects, at the expense of the general tax fund.

We all could accept money for COVID, but only half the people would accept partisan diversion of these funds to partisan causes that were not stated in the original scam bill. This needs to be called a crime, with payback to the general tax fund being required, or jail and fines. The days of Democrat money laundering are over.

One of the original money laundering scams was the teachers union money laundering scam. We all do not mind money for education. However, the Democrats figure out a way to divert this common tax payer money, earmarked to the need of teachers, into donations to mostly Democrat candidates. No personal money is used for donations, except as a front. If the teachers get 5% pay raise and donate to Democrat candidates they still net tax payer money. This result in both parties are funding the Democrat candidates, with their common tax payer dollars. This scam has been extrapolated to other areas, and needs to be outlawed. It would be less obvious if teacher union donations had to be split to reflect the general tax base. The current result is poor education due to influence from only one side of the political spectrum; Money pit and marketing side.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Anyone can write to Wikipedia. It is an open platform where anyone can add detail. Its is supposed to done in an honest and scholarly way, but partisans found they can cheat the truth this way. A fun exercise is to research the Bio of someone hated by one of the political parties, and see if you can figure out which partisan wrote what.

I read the article -- and I didn't find it to be skewed towards the left. Did you read it, or are you just going on the assumption that if it's about a right-wing group, it must have been written with venom by the left?

Before this week, Twitter was the main source of information for the Left Wing Media buzz. Leftist journalists are lazy and incompetent and would parrot the buzz, since it was a form of marching coordinated orders from above. Twitter would censor alternate POV, that were not with the program set by the DNC and Swamp. This one-sided news from the town square news stream; with its hidden trap doors, made it easy to fool many people into thinking, since this was all you would read, this meant this was based on truth and on consensus. All the opposition was blacked out so what you assumed was not the whole truth but sold as such.

There's that broad brush again! Unfortunately, I'd be using just such a brush if I were to say that rightist forum posters are full of hate and won't let the truth get in the way a good bit of slander against those they hate -- but by gosh, it sure seems to be true of some posting here.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It may not ever come to a court, but this exposure will make it much more difficult for democrats to do this again.

Do you seriously think that the Democrats did it this time? If so you have probably never voted by mail.

 

[KW]

Do you seriously think that the Democrats did it this time? If so you have probably never voted by mail.

Of course they did.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Of course they did.

You are kidding. You only have a film made by a known criminal. supported by a dishonest foundation. How did they do it and what and where is the evidence? By the way, claims are not evidence.

 

[metis]

We can't know if these efforts would have changed the election outcome in 2020, but we do know that the Democrats have a massive election fraud system in place. This is mind blowing!

Are Democrats and Joe Biden up to their old election tricks? (nypost.com)

One example:

Then they went looking for public surveillance camera footage of those drop boxes. In all they found 4 million minutes across the country.

The results are stunning. When a mule is matched with video, you can see the scheme come to life.

A car pulls up at a drop box after midnight. A man gets out, looks around surreptitiously, approaches the box, stuffs in a handful of ballots and hightails it out of there. Then he goes to the next box, again and again.

For each of the 2,000 mules the average number of drop box visits was 38, with an average five ballots deposited per visit. That’s 380,000 suspect votes.

No wonder your politics is all screwy.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I'd be using just such a brush if I were to say that rightist forum posters are full of hate and won't let the truth get in the way a good bit of slander against those they hate -- but by gosh, it sure seems to be true of some posting here.

It's not hard to distinguish those conservatives who hate from those who don't. The good guys look more like Kinzinger and Cheney, and on RF [censored for uncertainty about what is permissible to post about other RF members].

As for the rest, which are the majority of both Republicans and Republican voters, it's in their latent racism and their hatred of liberals. If they use phrases like woke, social justice warrior, all lives matter, and cancel culture, then they are contemptuous of progressives, are into grievance politics, and have taken the bait to demean those who disagree with them.

They've allowed themselves to be convinced that the election was stolen and that diseased criminals are escaping over the border to steal their jobs and keep them unable to get ahead. Such people are constantly angry about both of these things and just about everything else. They don't seem to be as much interested in being helped themselves as in harming those they have been taught to blame for their struggles.

What neutral, purely descriptive word or phrase encompasses these people and these people only? I don't have one, which may be your problem as well. MAGA? Alt right? They already seem like dated terms.

 

[NArdas]

I thought the democrats credo was that if there might be evidence of possible wrong doing then we should investigate, I guess that only applies to the other side. The level of democrat hypocrisy to normal hypocrisy is much like Tartarus in regards to Hades, the lowest pit.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I thought the democrats credo was that if there might be evidence of possible wrong doing then we should investigate, I guess that only applies to the other side. The level of democrat hypocrisy to normal hypocrisy is much like Tartarus in regards to Hades, the lowest pit.

A documentary made by a fraudster with a very well known bias and agenda is your big "smoking gun."
Actual investigations and court cases (60+) have turned up nothing on these claims of mass voter fraud.

Remember the Kraken Lady? Where is she now?
Sidney Powell Finally Admits That ‘Perhaps’ the Kraken Is Not Real

How about Giuliani and his many claims of voter fraud?
'Not My Job': Rudy Giuliani Admits He Didn't Bother to Vet Ludicrous Election Fraud Claims

What's that? Neither of them spent any actual time verifying the claims of voter fraud they were hocking all over television? You don't say!



Some actual investigations turned up (minor) voter fraud on the part of some Republicans (some of whom claimed to have wanted to root out voter fraud!):
https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...-others-charged-with-voter-fraud-in-wisconsin
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/10/mark-meadows-hypocrisy-republican-voter-fraud/
Florida voters latest Republicans to be charged with voter fraud

So please, do go on about hypocrisy.

 

[NArdas]

A documentary made by a fraudster with a very well known bias and agenda is your big "smoking gun."
Actual investigations and court cases (60+) have turned up nothing on these claims of mass voter fraud.

I never said it was a "smoking gun", that was your projection but when you have video and other evidence of potential fraud that was not seen before then it is worth taking a second look is it not?
We had a Steele dossier that was completely false that was bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign to undermine democracy (no it wasn't opposition research, it was a lie), a Russia collusion investigation that turned up nothing, and we had the complete dismissal of the Hunter Biden laptop as "Russian disinformation" right before the election and tech and social media companies banning, censoring, and disabling links of any talk about it. We also had the complete collusion of many MSM outlets to reassure us of the lie that Hunters laptop was all just Russian disinformation. Do you or do you not have a problem with that?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I never said it was a "smoking gun", that was your projection but when you have video and other evidence of potential fraud that was not seen before then it is worth taking a second look is it not?
We had a Steele dossier that was completely false that was bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign to undermine democracy (no it wasn't opposition research, it was a lie), a Russia collusion investigation that turned up nothing, and we had the complete dismissal of the Hunter Biden laptop as "Russian disinformation" right before the election. We also had the complete collusion of many MSM outlets to reassure us of the lie that Hunters laptop was all just Russian disinformation. Do you or do you not have a problem with that?

Oops, you cut my post in half and only replied to half of it.

Now you're just listing off a bunch of right-wing talking points.

 

[NArdas]

Oops, you cut my post in half and only replied to half of it.

Now you're just listing off a bunch of right-wing talking points.

I cut your post it because in light of this new potential evidence it may very well not be relevant.

As far as the so called "right wing" talking points which of them do you find false? Everything I said is true and there is ample evidence to support it.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I thought the democrats credo was that if there might be evidence of possible wrong doing then we should investigate

when you have video and other evidence of potential fraud that was not seen before then it is worth taking a second look is it not?
We had a Steele dossier that was completely false that was bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign to undermine democracy (no it wasn't opposition research, it was a lie), a Russia collusion investigation that turned up nothing, and we had the complete dismissal of the Hunter Biden laptop as "Russian disinformation" right before the election and tech and social media companies banning, censoring, and disabling links of any talk about it. We also had the complete collusion of many MSM outlets to reassure us of the lie that Hunters laptop was all just Russian disinformation. Do you or do you not have a problem with that?

The answer to both of these is that the Republicans have demonstrated that they have no interest in justice, truth, democracy, or the rule of law. They are not credible and should be trusted no more than Putin. If Putin called for these same investigations, he would also be ignored and for the same reason. His agenda, values, and methods are anti-American. The Democrats have no duty to take the extremist majority of Republicans seriously or show interest in their demands or opinions except to keep an eye on them. This is the party of the Great Lie. This is the party that resembles an organized crime mob and whose investigations are RICO-style, so dense is the criminality and conspiring to commit crime among these people. This is the party that held incessant investigations of Hillary. This is the party that admires dictators. This is the party that stole Supreme Court nominations. This is the party that tried to pass false electors, that organized an insurrection, that filed dozens of bad faith lawsuits following the election. This is the party that tried to prevent January 6th investigations and then tried to put provocateurs hostile to its purpose to investigate the insurrection on the committee to scuttle it, then claimed that the committee was not legitimate for rejecting such people. Why would their opinions matter except as I said to keep surveillance on what their next crime wave will look like?

You can't have it both ways. You can't bring a scorched earth attitude to your political opponents and expect to be treated as fellow Americans whose opinions have merit and whose wants and needs matter.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I cut your post it because in light of this new potential evidence it may very well not be relevant.

The fact that Giuliani and Powell didn't bother vetting the "information" they got before sharing it with the world isn't relevant to your post about hypocrisy? Or the apparent fact that most of the people that were caught committing (minor) voting fraud were actually Republicans, isn't relevant to your post about hypocrisy?
Mmkay.

As far as the so called "right wing" talking points which of them do you find false? Everything I said is true and there is ample evidence to support it.

All of 'em.

I don't know why anyone gives a s*** about Hunter Biden's laptop. Here's another hypocritical point being made by right-wingers (ya know, keeping with your hypocrite theme here) who didn't apparently care one whit about Trump's cronyism with his own children but are infuriated by the idea that the "other side" may have done something similar, when the two aren't anywhere close to being comparable.

 

[NArdas]

The answer to both of these is that the Republicans have demonstrated that they have no interest in justice, truth, democracy, or the rule of law. They are not credible and should be trusted no more than Putin.

Complete tripe

So back to my original post, which facts are you disputing?

We had a Steele dossier that was completely false that was bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign to undermine democracy (no it wasn't opposition research, it was a lie), a Russia collusion investigation that turned up nothing, and we had the complete dismissal of the Hunter Biden laptop as "Russian disinformation" right before the election and tech and social media companies banning, censoring, and disabling links of any talk about it. We also had the complete collusion of many MSM outlets to reassure us of the lie that Hunters laptop was all just Russian disinformation. Do you or do you not have a problem with that?

 

[NArdas]

The fact that Giuliani and Powell didn't bother vetting the "information" they got before sharing it with the world isn't relevant to your post about hypocrisy? Or the apparent fact that most of the people that were caught committing (minor) voting fraud were actually Republicans, isn't relevant to your post about hypocrisy?
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What facts are you disputing from my original post below?

We had a Steele dossier that was completely false that was bought and paid for by the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign to undermine democracy (no it wasn't opposition research, it was a lie), a Russia collusion investigation that turned up nothing, and we had the complete dismissal of the Hunter Biden laptop as "Russian disinformation" right before the election and tech and social media companies banning, censoring, and disabling links of any talk about it. We also had the complete collusion of many MSM outlets to reassure us of the lie that Hunters laptop was all just Russian disinformation. Do you or do you not have a problem with that?