Trump Acquitted

[Twilight Hue]

John Bolton was right.

John Bolton: Second Trump impeachment 'badly conceived, poorly executed,' likely to produce same result as first

 

[Inquire of God]

Could be.
Or he just wanted to avoid the disgrace of impeachment.
Perhaps he was one of the few politicians capable of
feeling shame?

LPH-(laughing pretty hard!)

 

[ecco]

It's curious how little attention is paid in the larger media outlets to the dozens of injuries suffered by the Capitol Police. They aren't scratches by any means. Yet, almost no mention at all that I've seen. What about you?

I don't know which outlets you are referring to. Usually, on any coverage of the rampage, they mention that 130/140 capitol police were injured. One was killed and apparently, two have committed suicide.

 

[ecco]

That's good... it also shows how one can manipulate interpretations.

Kinda reminds me of how Trump easily manipulated his sheeples into believing the election was stolen.

 

[ecco]

He says that the jurisdictional question is up for debate, and that the text in the Constitution is ambiguous. But the Constitution GIVES the Senate the right and responsibility to make the rules, and the Senate did exactly that.

My take away from his speech was the fact that the only punishment for a guilty verdict is getting thrown out of office. Since Trump was already out, a guilty verdict was not appropriate.

But he clearly suggested that Trump could face criminal and civil charges.

I can see some (many) of the injured police officers suing in civil court.

However, there are other cases that have been waiting in the wings with prosecutors now ready to pounce on Mr. Private Citizen Trump.

 

[Sunstone]

I don't know which outlets you are referring to. Usually, on any coverage of the rampage, they mention that 130/140 capitol police were injured. One was killed and apparently, two have committed suicide.

Thanks for the correction. Much appreciated, especially these days, when there's just too much water coming out of the hydrants to take it all in.

 

[Shaul]

I'm sure you could have fooled many. Don't need your sorrow. I'm sure it benefits you more.

I have consistently been on record, I never voted for Trump. But fooling Trump haters is a low bar, they are easily fooled.

 

[Shaul]

It depends on who was right, and the vote was overwhelming that trump incited insurrection and insurrectionists wanted to kill Nancy Pelosi and Mike pence.

So “overwhelming” yet the Democrats couldn’t prove it. Don’t be a kool aid drinking sheep. There was no “there” there.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I have consistently been on record, I never voted for Trump. But fooling Trump haters is a low bar, they are easily fooled.

Not as low as those who believed his lies over the steal, and still do.

 

[robocop (actually)]

So “overwhelming” yet the Democrats couldn’t prove it. Don’t be a kool aid drinking sheep. There was no “there” there.

There were 8 Republicans who would have voted to convict if not for technicalities, and Kamala Harris counts as 1 vote.

That makes 66 votes when 67 would convict. And many who didn't convict want to try him criminally.

Now why is that significant?

There has never been a president before Trump that had a single person in his own party vote to convict him in an impeachment trial, and this was 7!

 

[ecco]

So “overwhelming” yet the Democrats couldn’t prove it.

The Democrats did prove it. Just like the prosecution proved OJ was guilty.
Republican Senators rejected it for political reasons. That is obvious from the repercussions immediately issued against those who voted for guilty. Can't you see that?
OJ's jurors rejected his guilt. I'll let you decide why.

Mitch McConnell stated there was no reason for a guilty finding since the only Senatorial penalty was removal from office. Mitch McConnell stated that Trump was fully responsible for the incursion. Didn't you know that?

Don’t be a kool aid drinking sheep. There was no “there” there.

Sheep blindly follow a shepherd. The Republicans are the sheep, Trump is the Shepherd. The sheep blindly believed the Trump lie about the election. Perhaps you do too. The sheep blindly believed Trump would help them in their insurrection - he would walk with them.

You can make no such comparison for any single Democrat.

 

[Revoltingest]

So “overwhelming” yet the Democrats couldn’t prove it. Don’t be a kool aid drinking sheep. There was no “there” there.

From what I saw of the trial, it was about validating
the feelings of those who'd already made up their minds.
So of course each side saw convincing evidence.
The real question is why they pursued a trial they knew
in advance they'd lose?

 

[ecco]

The real question is why they pursued a trial they knew
in advance they'd lose?

So that more people would hear the lie that Trump told and retold over the past many months.
So that more people would see and hear the extent of the violence from the right.
So they could show in detail how close the rioters came to the members of Congress, Pence, and security forces.
So that they could explain to more people, in detail, why Trump was responsible.

As a side benefit, that got it into the record the McConnell says Trump is responsible for inciting the riots.

 

[metis]

he Republicans are the sheep, Trump is the Shepherd. The sheep blindly believed the Trump lie about the election.

Clearly so.

BTW, have you noticed not hearing congressional Republicans that got reelected claiming that they really didn't win because of "voter fraud"? I haven't heard a single one make that statement.

The reality is that Trump wanted to negate the election in only four states, and these were states key to switching to Biden that gave him the victory. None of the congressional Pubs that I know of claimed that the "fraud" included why they got reelected.

So, what did and do the Trump-loving Pubs want? Have another election? Can't happen, and the same whines would be heard if he lost again. Recounts? They were done, and the results stayed in Biden's favor. Overthrow the government? I think many undoubtedly would have loved that, but then we would have become a dictatorship under Trump-- democracy lost. And with that, Trump's BFF, Vladimir Putin, would be a VERY happy camper, because this is what he also has tried to do in Europe.

BTW, a recent poll has it that 86% of Americans don't want Trump to run in 2024. Does anyone seriously want to go through this again? Maybe masochists do, but if Trump ran and won, I'd swim the Detroit River to get to Canada even if I had to do it in the buff. I'd rather be in a Canadian jail for indecent exposure than to spend more time under a Trump presidency.

 

[Revoltingest]

Clearly so.

BTW, have you noticed not hearing congressional Republicans that got reelected claiming that they really didn't win because of "voter fraud"? I haven't heard a single one make that statement.

The reality is that Trump wanted to negate the election in only four states, and these were states key to switching to Biden that gave him the victory. None of the congressional Pubs that I know of claimed that the "fraud" included why they got reelected.

So, what did and do the Trump-loving Pubs want? Have another election? Can't happen, and the same whines would be heard if he lost again. Recounts? They were done, and the results stayed in Biden's favor. Overthrow the government? I think many undoubtedly would have loved that, but then we would have become a dictatorship under Trump-- democracy lost. And with that, Trump's BFF, Vladimir Putin, would be a VERY happy camper, because this is what he also has tried to do in Europe.

BTW, a recent poll has it that 86% of Americans don't want Trump to run in 2024. Does anyone seriously want to go through this again? Maybe masochists do, but if Trump ran and won, I'd swim the Detroit River to get to Canada even if I had to do it in the buff. I'd rather be in a Canadian jail for indecent exposure than to spend more time under a Trump presidency.

I've decided to support a Trump win in 2024.
Democracy survived him. No new wars.
A strong economy until the plague.
The swim to Canuckistan will do you good.
And Trump's foes will continue to entertain us.

 

[ecco]

I've decided to support a Trump win in 2024.

That's no surprise.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I've decided to support a Trump win in 2024.
Democracy survived him. No new wars.
A strong economy until the plague.
The swim to Canuckistan will do you good.
And Trump's foes will continue to entertain us.

Is this a real or satirical post? I can't tell. (Not being sarcastic; I actually don't know whether you mean it in earnest.)

 

[Revoltingest]

Is this a real or satirical post? I can't tell. (Not being sarcastic; I actually don't know whether you mean it in earnest.)

Woke posters know I'm a Trump supporter.
Who am I to deny it, eh.

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[Evangelicalhumanist]

There's an old saying that says, "if you strike at the king, you must make sure you kill him." Quite sensible, too.

So Mitch McConnell struck at the king in his speech AFTER his vote to acquit, when his vote was his sole opportunity to kill the king.

I'd call that a very big oops for somebody with McConnell's vaunted political savvy...

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Woke posters know I'm a Trump supporter.
Who am I to deny it, eh.

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Trump supporter, eh? Supporters come in all forms -- bras, jock straps, plaster casts, etc. Which one are you?