cataway
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the chances that Mary helping you is right up there with winning the lottery 52 times in a year.
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The Jehovah's witnesses and the rest. What's the stumper?
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
And how is it that you supposedly know that?
IMO, I don't believe it nor do I disbelieve it as I'm not quite omniscient.
The same could be said about Jesus helping you.
cataway
Well-Known Member
i have many friends that ''where'' CatholicAnd how is it that you supposedly know that?
IMO, I don't believe it nor do I disbelieve it as I'm not quite omniscient.
cataway
Well-Known Member
and yet i make no claim of going off to heaven .Catholic's think its a given to go to heaven . they are in for a big surprise
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
And the people who live right across the street from me are former JW's, as was one of my neighbors next door
, and I ain't making this up.
cataway
Well-Known Member
gasp! oh say its not true .And the people who live right across the street from me are former JW's, as was one of my neighbors next door
i really don't care " let the dead bury their dead.”
Dogknox20
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cataway I am sorry to say it but.... Again just another nice story or yours.... No proof just accusations!
Mary is my mother because I am IN the Holy body of Jesus! It is just this simple! I honor Mary as blessed just as all the generations before have honored my mother!
THINK: Jesus baptizes with spirit because he is the groom. The Church baptizes with water because she is the bride; I have a mother and a father!
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
cataway no one can baptize themselves the mother forms the baby the father sends the gift! Two two two parents not only one!
Jesus baptizes with the spirit.. He sends the GIFT!
The Bride the Holy Catholic Church baptizes with water she removes the sins! All who died before Pentecost did not receive the gift they were NOT IMMERSED into the body of Jesus! The THIEF..
cataway the Thief ended up in a Garden "Paradise" John the Baptist also died before he could become a Child of God before Pentecost he also was NOT Baptized by the One Holy Church!
28 I tell you, among those born of women there is no one greater than John; yet the one who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.”
cataway You claim God is your father? Do I have to point out no father gets the title father unless a Mother gives birth! You are mother-less!
Look up the "Miracle of the sun", Google it.
>>>>Miracle of the Sun - Wikipedia<<<<<
Get back to me about how Mary helps no one! Tell me that there are no miracles....LOL Tens of thousands of people witnessed this miracle but they are all wrong.. LOL!
cataway
Well-Known Member
like it or not ,Mary was a vessel . used for the purpose of binging forth a man ,Jesus . she did not give him life she nurtured that life.
did she receive a position in the kingdom ??? at best it can only be presumed that she did . even if she did it would not be a greater position than any of the apostles.
did she receive a position in the kingdom ??? at best it can only be presumed that she did . even if she did it would not be a greater position than any of the apostles.
Dogknox20
Well-Known Member
Again so says you... No scriptures just presumptions and what you have been taught outside of the scriptures. So much for the tradition of scriptures Alone! LOL
cataway Mary the ARC is crowned with stars... The ARC carried God! God honors Mary his mother in a way that only a God can!
19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm. .... A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth...... WHO...
cataway who is about to give birth?
You do understand "The ARC carried God for forty years!" Mary a true ARC carried God for 40 weeks, the Arc carried the "Show Bread"! Mary carried the "True Manna from heaven". The ARC carried the ten commandments of God.. Mary carried "The WORD"!
God is with Mary.. Mary is HIGHLY FAVORED by God!
28 The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
cataway Mary is BLESSED among all woman for all generations! You are forced to reject the scriptures to be a JW!!
Mary is the Mother of God!
42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
Mary GLORIFIES God!
46 And Mary said:
“My soul glorifies the Lord
47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
Question is Jesus savior?
Jesus MUST HONOR Mary... All of Jesus' Brothers and Sisters MUST honor Mary... Proving Jesus is NOT he cannot be your brother... To you; Mary is not your mother! Mary is NOT your mother you reject her as ordinary; YES Mary is a vessel a Blessed Holy vessel an ARC the Mother of God "The Son!"
Elizabeth is a Jew she has ONLY ONE GOD; HER LORD these are her words (not mine) why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
Elizabeth would be blaspheming saying that Jesus is her God if he was NOT! EVERY....
cataway every place in Luke chapter one LORD means GOD; You cannot prove the word LORD does not mean God!
Did you look into the "Miracle of the sun"?! Thousands of witnesses many none believers, reporters recorded the event, many were cured, the water dried up instantly! Reject the truth for the lies of the WT! Its a recorded documented miracle of Mary!
cataway
Well-Known Member
is that what the Catholic church is telling you or did you come up with that by your self ? thats not about Mary
Dogknox20
Well-Known Member
Mary is my mother because I am IN the Holy Body of Jesus, It is just this simple!
I was IMMERSED into Jesus' holy body by my baptism!
cataway I was made a DISCIPLE by baptism!
"19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing..." Baptism is NOT symbolic it IMMERSES Christians into the ONE...Holy Catholic Apostolic Body of Jesus!
You have been told many lies by the WATCH TOWER, fallen for their teaching! LOGIC ALONE should tell you... You cannot be a child of God if you are NOT immersed into the body of his ONLY SON; Jesus!
cataway I am in Jesus so Mary LOGICALY is my adopted mother! I am IN Jesus thus Mary is my adopted mother as God is my adopted Father; I HONOR Mary as Commanded in the ten commandments! I honor Mary because Jesus honors Mary as blessed! Catholic have ALWAYS honored Mary, all GENERATIONS of Mary's family have called Mary blessed for 2000 years Christians have Honored their Holy mother as Blessed!
You cannot call Mary your mother, you find yourself OUTSIDE of the body of Jesus! You are OUTSIDE of Jesus so LOGIC tells you; You cannot be a child of God.. God has ONLY one child.. To be God' child you MUST.. You HAVE TO BE Immersed into him!
cataway
Well-Known Member
you should end you post with'' IMHO '' because that's really all you haveMary is my mother because I am IN the Holy Body of Jesus, It is just this simple!
I was IMMERSED into Jesus' holy body by my baptism!
cataway I was made a DISCIPLE by baptism!
"19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing..." Baptism is NOT symbolic it IMMERSES Christians into the ONE...Holy Catholic Apostolic Body of Jesus!
You have been told many lies by the WATCH TOWER, fallen for their teaching! LOGIC ALONE should tell you... You cannot be a child of God if you are NOT immersed into the body of his ONLY SON; Jesus!
cataway I am in Jesus so Mary LOGICALY is my adopted mother! I am IN Jesus thus Mary is my adopted mother as God is my adopted Father; I HONOR Mary as Commanded in the ten commandments! I honor Mary because Jesus honors Mary as blessed! Catholic have ALWAYS honored Mary, all GENERATIONS of Mary's family have called Mary blessed for 2000 years Christians have Honored their Holy mother as Blessed!
You cannot call Mary your mother, you find yourself OUTSIDE of the body of Jesus! You are OUTSIDE of Jesus so LOGIC tells you; You cannot be a child of God.. God has ONLY one child.. To be God' child you MUST.. You HAVE TO BE Immersed into him!
Seems to me the people's actions as found at Acts of the Apostles 17:11 was adult.
I can't find anything Not done properly in that verse.
Seems to me if one wants to know more about Catholics he would go to Priests.
Seems to me if one wants to know more about Jews he would go to Rabbi's.
Seems to me if one wants to know more about Buddhists he would go to practicing Buddhists, etc.
So, why Not go to www.jw.org if one wants to know more about Jehovah's Witnesses _________
exchemist
Veteran Member
See post 13.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
And Jesus said "judge ye not...", but apparently you never made it that far in your reading.
exchemist
Veteran Member
"Where"?
cataway
Well-Known Member
ok ,were Catholic
cataway
Well-Known Member
you have made a judgment . it seems thats ok?
“Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, judge for yourselves''. hummmm