President Trump's is a saint

[Revoltingest]

Okay, but what do you consider to be positive, and are those positives "unalloyed?"

I initially listed 2.

For example, I understand that a lot of people think it's great that the stock market is (sorry, was, now) up and unemployment (again was) down. These have changed, of course, due to our newest challenge.

But did those things come at costs that nobody wants to talk about? A tax policy that runs unprecedented deficits -- to be paid for by some who haven't yet had a chance to vote? Did unemployment rise due to tearing down protections that will have negative effects on the environment, which will have to be dealt with (if they can be dealt with) later?

I don't attribute the stock market gains (or recent loss) to Trump.
He doesn't have a policy which directly effects that.
Sure, some influence it, eg, the recent assistance bill.
But that's Congress legislating, & Trump signing.
The greater effect of assistance is....assistance, ie,
stabilising the economy & helping everyone.
He does get credit for doing what is obviously necessary.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ummmm.......... Hmmmmmmm.......
Errrr.....
Well........... he uses long words, like 'Tremendous' and 'Fantastic' and 'Wonderful' a lot.

He always looks smart. Yes..... he does, and he keeps what hair he's got looking smart as well.

Ummmm...... his wife looks posh and..... wifely.

He's got a big plane! Very big plane! Bigger than my Fiat Panda, anyway.

I'll bet he can hit a golf ball better 'n me 'n' all.

I'll bet you're not very familiar with a broad range of his policies.
If you were, you'd approve of at least one.

I think this typifies many determined anti-Trumpers....they know
they loathe him, & they see his many personal shortcomings
& failings....but they obsess over this instead of policy issues.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I'll bet you're not very familiar with a broad range of his policies.
If you were, you'd approve of at least one.

I think this typifies many determined anti-Trumpers....they know
they loathe him, & they see his many personal shortcomings
& failings....but they obsess over this instead of policy issues.

You know a policy that might win a lot of approval (except from the oligarchs that run the place)? Get some American manufacturing back. The money-men determined that sending everything offshore meant that they could make things cheaper, and thus their profits would be higher. But of course, there's a downside to that, which is that fewer manufacturing workers tends to mean fewer purchasers of manufactured goods. Cripes, in the upcoming epidemic, America doesn't even make its own Tylenol! -- China does!!!!

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I really like that Trump is not 400 feet tall and destroying cities with his atomic fire breath.

 

[Heyo]

You know a policy that might win a lot of approval (except from the oligarchs that run the place)? Get some American manufacturing back.

A good thing about Trump is that he is behind that idea. He even tried. It's just unfortunate that he is totally incompetent to realize the plan.
Same with "bringing back the troops". He had some ideas that weren't totally evil.

 

[oldbadger]

I'll bet you're not very familiar with a broad range of his policies.
If you were, you'd approve of at least one.

I think this typifies many determined anti-Trumpers....they know
they loathe him, & they see his many personal shortcomings
& failings....but they obsess over this instead of policy issues.

Just a sec.......
The reason why people around the World really despise him is because of what they have actually heard him say and do. They just don't like him!

It's not that he 'bigs' himself up all the time, it's his attitudes shown in his every word and movement, I think.

The local fence erection contractor is very very good at his job and very inexpensive (a good thing) but my wife shivers if she even think of him and he would never ever get a job here. See?

President Trump has probably done a good thing, or lots of good things, but we (mostly) all hate him.

 

[oldbadger]

Click bait. You guys have anything positive to say about the guy?

I'm not political and don't like labels but was wonderin...

Click right back at you.....!
In all my years on RF I never happened to read one post from you which showed a good word for President Obama. !

You appeared to have an almost visceral hatred of him.

Now many of us foreigners around the world held President Obama in the highest regard..... his words, his NVGs, body language...... how we saw and heard him. But we soap watching everyday lay folks didn't follow President Obama's political career so much as his HUMANITY, and all we know about really is that he wanted to provide medical care for every American.

We soap watching everyday lay folks don't know much about Trump, but we simply dislike him because we perceive his INHUMANITY.

Your attitude about President Obama was.... is ....... odd, I think. So? A good word for Obama?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Click right back at you.....!
In all my years on RF I never happened to read one post from you which showed a good word for President Obama. !

You appeared to have an almost visceral hatred of him.

Now many of us foreigners around the world held President Obama in the highest regard..... his words, his NVGs, body language...... how we saw and heard him. But we soap watching everyday lay folks didn't follow President Obama's political career so much as his HUMANITY, and all we know about really is that he wanted to provide medical care for every American.

We soap watching everyday lay folks don't know much about Trump, but we simply dislike him because we perceive his INHUMANITY.

Your attitude about President Obama was.... is ....... odd, I think. So? A good word for Obama?

This went over my head. Obama? Trump?

 

[Revoltingest]

Just a sec.......
The reason why people around the World really despise him is because of what they have actually heard him say and do. They just don't like him!

It's not that he 'bigs' himself up all the time, it's his attitudes shown in his every word and movement, I think.

The local fence erection contractor is very very good at his job and very inexpensive (a good thing) but my wife shivers if she even think of him and he would never ever get a job here. See?

President Trump has probably done a good thing, or lots of good things, but we (mostly) all hate him.

You're not addressing my point or the thread's theme.
If you see only negative things in Trump's administration,
& cannot see anything...not a single thing positive, this
is to be either uninformed or in denial.
It's very safe to say that no one is a 100% incompetent
evildoer...even Johnson, Nixon, Bush (1 or 2), or Obama.
All have done something positive.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Whether I like his personality or not, I appreciate that this president has recognized Jerusalem at the rightful capital of Israel and moved the U.S. embassy there,

Because that should be the central concern of the American voter.

 

[Revoltingest]

Because that should be the central concern of the American voter.

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[Kangaroo Feathers]

@Kangaroo Feathers calls the above 'Political Tribalism'
@lewisnotmiller mentioned the 'herd instinct' or something similar.
I like watching flocks of starlings....... ergo 'flocking' .

The Ozzies shouldn't get all the points. Can I call such folks 'Political Flockers'?

Political tribalism is where the act of belonging to a political group becomes more important than the actual stated coals and doctrine of the group. For example, our resident trumpettes who happily support trump against their own best interests, most of whom can't actually articulate in any meaningful way what it is about trump they support past a few vague platitudes, but will defend trump from any criticism on spec, because they've internalised "being a trump supporter" so much, that all they care about is A. being a member of the trumpette "ingroup" and B. dumping on the non-trumpette "outgroup."

 

[Revoltingest]

Political tribalism is where the act of belonging to a political group becomes more important than the actual stated coals and doctrine of the group. For example, our resident trumpettes who....

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Go ahead and specify anything I said remotely "ironic", or factually incorrect? I'll wait.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

most of whom can't actually articulate in any meaningful way what it is about trump they support past a few vague platitudes ... all they care about is... B. dumping on the non-trumpette "outgroup."

QED

 

[Revoltingest]

Go ahead and specify anything I said remotely "ironic", or factually incorrect? I'll wait.

Post # 52 was funny cuz you're a wee bit tribal yourself.
The difference between you & the "usual suspects" you
dis is only that you're on opposite sides of the same coin.
One blindly pro-Trump...the other blindly anti-Trump.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I'll bet you're not very familiar with a broad range of his policies.
If you were, you'd approve of at least one.

I think this typifies many determined anti-Trumpers....they know
they loathe him, & they see his many personal shortcomings
& failings....but they obsess over this instead of policy issues.

Which is why I ALWAY criticise his policies and failed promises, and YOU always try to change the subject and go on the personal attack.

Because I care about the issues, and because you've internalised being a trumpette so much you can't distinguish between meaningful discussion about what trump does wrong and a personal attack on you.

Oh, and before you start, I've said here and elsewhere, publically, that I support some of trump's policies, but don't let that slow you down.

 

[Revoltingest]

QED

TDS
QED
PDQ
IMO
LOL

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Post # 52 was funny cuz you're a wee bit tribal yourself.
The difference between you & the "usual suspects" you
dis is only that you're on opposite sides of the same coin.
One blindly pro-Trump...the other blindly anti-Trump.

Except I'm not remotely tribal about it, and happily support trump's policies when they're generally beneficial.

Swing and a miss.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

TDS
QED
PDQ
IMO
LOL

And again, can't meaningfully engage with the discussion, go straight for the personal attacks.

Another swing, another miss.

LOL.