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Poverty In The U.S. (We Should Be Ashamed!)
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
But you have the greatest military, you are God's own country and you have some of the richest people on earth.
Live the American Dream or leave. I bet you are an immigrant and not even a real American.
Live the American Dream or leave. I bet you are an immigrant and not even a real American.
No need to be ashamed for anything one didn't cause.
There are many steps we can take to improve things....
- Legalize victimless "crimes".
- Ease building & zoning codes to allow higher density & cheaper housing.
- Cut taxes to lower income folk.
- End the practice of cutting their benefits when they earn money.
- Spend less money policing the world.
- Ease needlessly restrictive professional licensing.
There are many steps we can take to improve things....
- Legalize victimless "crimes".
- Ease building & zoning codes to allow higher density & cheaper housing.
- Cut taxes to lower income folk.
- End the practice of cutting their benefits when they earn money.
- Spend less money policing the world.
- Ease needlessly restrictive professional licensing.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Mostly good ones.
Only "mostly"?
I'm cut to the quick!
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Ease building & zoning codes to allow higher density & cheaper housing. - Not to much and you can get fire and construction hazards. I won't touch the environmental side, because than one is tricky, but it is there.
Spend less money policing the world. - Well, power always fills a vacuum, so less policing can lead to more bad guys.
Ease needlessly restrictive professional licensing. - For some professions yes, for others you probably have to tighten them. Ask for more.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
Why do so many teens drop out of school? They are condemning themselves to a life of poverty. We must make young people understand the value of education.
Fire safety need not be sacrificed in order to make housing cheaper.
In our policing of the world, we have been the bad guys more often than not.
Regarding licenses, pay heed to the word "needlessly".
Is 2000 hours of schooling really necessary to braid hair?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
You are good at this. You won these points. Now what about the environment in regards to zoning?
Where to start....where to start.....
First, by creating higher density housing,
less natural & farm land is paved over.
Higher density also makes mass transit
more practical.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
If you mean already inner cities, then yes and only that for zoning.
I'm thinking everywhere.
Around here, requiring 5 to 10 acres per house causes rapid urban sprawl.
And within the city expanding single family houses has been illegal.
WhyIsThatSo
Well-Known Member
"Plutocracy" is a good word to use for this joke of a "government". But what very few know is that this country is a "federal corporation"
and every legal citizen here is corporate property.
(It also explains our policies on refugees and immigrants to this "country")
Your "birth certificate" is in truth a certified "bond" stating such ownership. And why your "legal name" is spelled in all capital letters.
This is why we have a "President" and a "Vice President", as heads of the US Corporation.
And why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Many teens are victims of generational poverty where the skills, knowledge, and motivation to support basic financial stability aren't there, and likely the economic infrastructure is missing so will likely continue the cycle.
High schools that push and focus on collegiate success without offering vocational alternatives contribute to this cycle as well.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
I keep HEARING that.
the problem is..Scandanavia.
I think that Idaho can do that. Or Nevada can. Or Mississippi or North Carolina or even New York. I'd love to see California give it a go.
but for the entire United States to do it?
Not even remotely possible.
Shad
Veteran Member
How many are in the situation due to their own poor choices? How many are living in a city with high costs of living?
Take Maria for example. She left everything. Didn't go to divorce court, didn't get property that was her own before the marriage, didn't get alimony, not even an effort. Her own choice... Her situation isn't because of some circumstance she couldn't avoid. She walked away. A strong economy does not mean people get to benefit automatically while nullifying their previous choices. She is what is called a charity case
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Why not? Would you elaborate on that? Sorry, I don't live in the US.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Someday they'll come up with a system that incentivizes helping poor people without cost to its citizens. Until that day nobody will flinch.
Everybody follows after money. Self interest is king. Economics is all about self interest. The principle of making everybody's life better will make everybody's life better doesn't seem to compute to humans.
Things have to be accounted for, and resources must be used wisely. And everybody must compete for scarce resources. We compete more than cooperate. There's no such thing as cooperative economics.
Out of all the money that currently exists people are going to monopolize and save, safeguard, and build their paradises and fortresses without regard to the poor. They are going to invest only where there is money to demand.
Poor people seem to be looked upon in a highly unfavorable way. Nobody has the freedom nor incentive to help the poor. Create a system that can create that freedom and incentive.
They need schools, they need guidance, they need healthcare, they need, need, need.
Everybody follows after money. Self interest is king. Economics is all about self interest. The principle of making everybody's life better will make everybody's life better doesn't seem to compute to humans.
Things have to be accounted for, and resources must be used wisely. And everybody must compete for scarce resources. We compete more than cooperate. There's no such thing as cooperative economics.
Out of all the money that currently exists people are going to monopolize and save, safeguard, and build their paradises and fortresses without regard to the poor. They are going to invest only where there is money to demand.
Poor people seem to be looked upon in a highly unfavorable way. Nobody has the freedom nor incentive to help the poor. Create a system that can create that freedom and incentive.
They need schools, they need guidance, they need healthcare, they need, need, need.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
Scandinavia has a population of 21 million, is extremely homogeneous, and has an area of about 358,325 Square miles.
The USA has a population of 327.2 million, is not even remotely homogeneous, and has an area of 3.707 million square miles.
In case those numbers boggle the mind (and they should) figure that ONE STATE in the USA, California,has a population of nearly 40 million people,
ONE STATE in the USA has an area of 663,267 square miles. We have 49 more. True, no state is as big as Alaska, but TWO of them are EACH bigger than Scandanavia.
the point is this: While I really do think that the policies of Scandanavia might well work on a state level, when one expands them as much--and put as much government control in--as would be required to make them work on a national level, those programs will fall in on themselves.
But I WOULD like to see them tried on a state level, somewhere. Just to see.