Judgement time - Are you ready?

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

JUDGEMENT TIME AND THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGEMENT - WILL YOU BE READY?

Hi all, according to the scriptures there will be both an investigative judgement and judgements from God poured out on mankind for those who do not believe and follow God's Word (biblical and Jewish scriptures); so the questions I am asking here are...

1. The investigative judgement what is it for?
2. God's judgements to mankind what are they for?
3. How does one avoid receiving the judgements of God?
4. What is the difference between the investigative judgement and God's judgements?
5. What was the great day of atonement for and why (Yom kippur) ?

I will post some scriptures out of interest to help the discussion on my view for to the OP.

There are several judgements found in the Bible. Some may not agree on the exact number, but they each have their purpose.

You can't avoid the judgements from God.

I'm not sure what you men by investigative and God's judgements. They are all God's judgements.

I believe the purpose for the Day of Atonement is given in (Lev. 16:34) "And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year...."

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[SalixIncendium]

JUDGEMENT TIME AND THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGEMENT - WILL YOU BE READY?

I was born ready!

 

[shmogie]

JUDGEMENT TIME AND THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGEMENT - WILL YOU BE READY?

Hi all, according to the scriptures there will be both an investigative judgement and judgements from God poured out on mankind for those who do not believe and follow God's Word (biblical and Jewish scriptures); so the questions I am asking here are...

1. The investigative judgement what is it for?
2. God's judgements to mankind what are they for?
3. How does one avoid receiving the judgements of God?
4. What is the difference between the investigative judgement and God's judgements?
5. What was the great day of atonement for and why (Yom kippur) ?

I will post some scriptures out of interest to help the discussion on my view for to the OP.

The "investigative judgement" came about when William Millers date and year for the return of Christ didn't see the return of Christ.

True believers in Miller (later to become the core of the 7th Adventist Church) Could not admit that Millers timeline from prophecy could be wrong.

Then two members alleged they had a "vision" ( the corn field vision) that showed them that the verse speaking of the cleansing of the sanctuary didn't mean earth, but the heavenly sanctuary as Miller predicted something to happen in 1844.

So, since then the heavenly record of everyone and their relationship to God is being reviewed so all the heavenly host can see that how ultimately God judges them is just.

It is a theological concept not held by any denomination on earth.

My opinion is that it is bogus, and was used in part to justify William Miller for those who could not accept he was wrong.

Tbe idea is that

 

[shmogie]

There are several judgements found in the Bible. Some may not agree on the exact number, but they each have their purpose.

You can't avoid the judgements from God.

I'm not sure what you men by investigative and God's judgements. They are all God's judgements.

I believe the purpose for the Day of Atonement is given in (Lev. 16:34) "And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year...."

Good-Ole-Rebel

Yep, for the Jews.

 

[England my lionheart]

JUDGEMENT TIME AND THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGEMENT - WILL YOU BE READY?

Hi all, according to the scriptures there will be both an investigative judgement and judgements from God poured out on mankind for those who do not believe and follow God's Word (biblical and Jewish scriptures); so the questions I am asking here are...

1. The investigative judgement what is it for?
2. God's judgements to mankind what are they for?
3. How does one avoid receiving the judgements of God?
4. What is the difference between the investigative judgement and God's judgements?
5. What was the great day of atonement for and why (Yom kippur) ?

I will post some scriptures out of interest to help the discussion on my view for to the OP.

Who's doing the investigative judgement?.

 

[shmogie]

Who's doing the investigative judgement?.

Christ.

 

[England my lionheart]

Christ.

What does the investigation entail?.

 

[Dave Watchman]

JUDGEMENT TIME AND THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGEMENT - WILL YOU BE READY?

No way.

I'm not ready for this.

I'm like a cat on a hot tin roof.

This is a spooky subject.

It's an awful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

1. The investigative judgement what is it for?

457 + 2300 = 1844.

This is the judgement of the dead.

The sanctuary in heaven restored to it's rightful state.

It's the heavenly day of Atonement.

This HAS to be completed before the second coming.

So that the dead in Christ can rise.

(There also has to be a judgment of the living prior to the second coming. We can be marked, or sealed, but the inner court must be measured. So that we who are alive and remain can be changed in the twinkling of an eye.)

2. God's judgements to mankind what are they for?

If you mean the outpouring of the vials, it's the great city being split into three parts. Complete destruction. All three thirds are destroyed. Not a third to spare. The time will have come for God to destroy the destroyers of the Earth.

And the land will vomit out it's inhabitants.

3. How does one avoid receiving the judgements of God?

I don't think any of God's People will be on the planet after the 7th trumpet.

We will watch the vials from the air.

I'm not SDA, but i like those guys.

I read it a bit different. Like what Paul was saying about us not coming into judgement, but receiving salvation. So excluding the vials or the trumpets, excluding the wrath type judgements during the tribulation, it would look more to me like this:

1) The investigative judgement of the dead beginning in 1844.

2) The judgement of the living beginning in 2015.

3) The Pauline judgement beginning with the start of the 1000 years in New Jerusalem.
(Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world?).

4) The great white throne judgement at the end of the 1000 years.​

Every single person, from Adam until the last baby born, will participate in either side of the fence with some of these judgements..

You say Happy, I say:

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What does the investigation entail?.

According to Christians, you would think Christ would know already.

 

[sojourner]

The Judaic people of the OT certainly didn’t believe in a judgment like what you’re promulgating here, because they didn’t believe in an afterlife — no heaven. And Jesus was far more interested in the here-and-now than in the future. The Gospel message is: “Turn your lives around, because the kin-dom has come near.” Immediate. The Jesus of the Gospels thought the Parousia would be quite soon: “Some will not see death before it happens.” Turns out the gospel writers were mistaken, for here we are 2000 years later. Paul is somewhat interested, but Paul is preaching to Gentiles who have a much more developed sense of an afterlife. Interestingly, Paul is also mistaken in his belief in an imminent Parousia.

I’m not much on a judgmental God — “Sinners in the hands of an angry God” and all that. That’s just not the kin-dom Jesus preached. Jesus put the kin-don in this light: The shepherd will search for lost sheep until it is found. The father will wait at the door until the prodigal returns. Jesus calls us “heirs of the kin-dom.” Doesn’t sound as if he’s too keen on having God kick most of us out for “non-belief.” In fact, Will Willimon once said “Jesus never asked us to believe anything specific about him. He asked us to do as he did.” (Paraphrased)

I think a view of an angry, vengeful God, bent on judging us according to some set standard that cannot be met by many is dismal, harmful, and unfortunate in many respects. I prefer to think that, when we are all gathered at the banquet, we will be seated to the left of the person we hurt the worst and to the right of the person who hurt us the worst. That will be the reconciliation of love that Jesus exemplified.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well actually the bible says quite alot. There has been over 8000 prophecies in the bible many of which are verified in the historical records many are unfolding and are yet to come.

That is not true. Most are too vague to qualify as prophecy to start with. There are some very reasonable rules that apply to prophecy and the Bible fails them. By the way, these rules apply to all religions. You reject the prophecies of other religions because they fail these rules.

 

[Bird123]

JUDGEMENT TIME AND THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGEMENT - WILL YOU BE READY?

Hi all, according to the scriptures there will be both an investigative judgement and judgements from God poured out on mankind for those who do not believe and follow God's Word (biblical and Jewish scriptures); so the questions I am asking here are...

1. The investigative judgement what is it for?
2. God's judgements to mankind what are they for?
3. How does one avoid receiving the judgements of God?
4. What is the difference between the investigative judgement and God's judgements?
5. What was the great day of atonement for and why (Yom kippur) ?

I will post some scriptures out of interest to help the discussion on my view for to the OP.

Do you really think God needs to fry his kids,threaten them or punish them in order to shape their choices and actions?? If you do, you do not know God at all. You know mankind really well for that is who you describe.

There will come a time of judgment after death, however it's not what you think. After death, one goes to God, one experiences God's Unconditional Love. It's a Love that heals all hurt. It feels so good, so complete that one would do ANYTHING for it. This is the point of judgment. One judges oneself. One sees where one is and where one needs to be.

Try to be easy on yourself because there will come a time where you will be born into a new physical body to improve yourself. This will be your free choice.

Each life advances one closer to being like God. In time, one Discovers the Higher Level where Hate, anger. judging, blaming,condemning,punishing, intimidating, coercing,and controlling are no longer viable choices simply because they are not intelligent choices to make. The journey to perfection might take many many lives, however since there is no time limit on learning, all God's children will make it.

There are no laws or rules at a Higher Level. Why? The journey to Discovery teaches one to choose the Best choices. If intelligence is choosing the best choices and since all the other choices are no longer viable to us, what rule or law could one possible invent?

Finally, religion's view of judging, blaming and punishing can teach people to Hate. I say do not listen to religion. They do not really know God at all. They give you their Beliefs. In time, one will Discover for oneself that the cost of Hate is always too high.

That's what I see. It's very clear.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

JUDGEMENT TIME AND THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGEMENT - WILL YOU BE READY?
Hi all, according to the scriptures there will be both an investigative judgement and judgements from God poured out on mankind for those who do not believe and follow God's Word (biblical and Jewish scriptures); so the questions I am asking here are...
1. The investigative judgement what is it for?
2. God's judgements to mankind what are they for?
3. How does one avoid receiving the judgements of God?
4. What is the difference between the investigative judgement and God's judgements?
5. What was the great day of atonement for and why (Yom kippur) ?.....

1) Jesus investigates both favorable and adverse judgement at the soon coming 'time of separation' - Matthew 25:31-33,37,40
2) God's judgement is for the purpose for the humble meek people to inherit the Earth.
3) As to how does one avoid an ' adverse ' judgement is to follow Jesus' New command found at John 13:34-35
4) Investigative is in the process of investigating. God's investigated judgement will be either favorable or adverse.
5) God's Great Day is the coming day God's Sovereignty and His Name will be vindicated and hallowed.

 

[MonkeyFire]

Faith judges life to be hopeful, and the trust of those about to receive it.

 

[Thief]

JUDGEMENT TIME AND THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGEMENT - WILL YOU BE READY?

Hi all, according to the scriptures there will be both an investigative judgement and judgements from God poured out on mankind for those who do not believe and follow God's Word (biblical and Jewish scriptures); so the questions I am asking here are...

1. The investigative judgement what is it for?
2. God's judgements to mankind what are they for?
3. How does one avoid receiving the judgements of God?
4. What is the difference between the investigative judgement and God's judgements?
5. What was the great day of atonement for and why (Yom kippur) ?

I will post some scriptures out of interest to help the discussion on my view for to the OP.

all that was done in secret shall be made known

I agree

once this veil of flesh fails.....we stand from the dust
and cannot hide what we have become

 

[England my lionheart]

According to Christians, you would think Christ would know already.

Yes,after all according to them he is omniscient :-/

 

[sooda]

Yes, the end is coming:

Secret Code On Viking Stone Finally Cracked After 1,200 Years Reveals ‘End Of The World’ Prophecy

Interesting link.

The study suggests the inscription deals with an anxiety triggered by Varin’s son being struck down in battle as, before this, a solar storm turned the sky red. While in the same period, a solar eclipse made the sun disappear, and patch of particularly cold weather saw crops fail. That year, 50% of the population in Scandinavia either fled the region in search of food, or succumbed to starvation.

 

[3rdAngel]

Just because there is many false predictions, does not mean there will not be truth to it unfolding.

Regards Tony

Yep good point Tony I beleive the same as you. This is simply a fulfilllment of the prophecies that these things would take place before the end of the world. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

 

[3rdAngel]

Many do and many will continue to.

In the end, waiting, not acting, is part of the judgement.

Regards Tony

Yes this is an interesting point you make Tony. There may be a time when through waiting we may realise only too late what we have missed out on.

 

[3rdAngel]

I see the end of the world happening every day. For all those who die. But a literal end of world is religious nonsense.

Hi Gerry, thanks for your view. I guess time will tell. Nothing is nonsense if you do not know the future. I will say this, the bible has a pretty good track record of telling the future and it also says that the end of the world is coming. Something to think about - never say never. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.