Judgement time - Are you ready?

[3rdAngel]

It seems as if you are implying that they are idiots when you say that it those are not defensive verses. Don't you realize that at Jesus's times there were quite a few "messiahs"? The end of the world was regularly being predicted. It does not take a genius to see that those sorts of predictions would continue. Predicting the obvious amounts to a defensive verse. But then you make the error of believing the Bible literally.

I was not implying any such things. How do you get that out of what I posted to you? I simply posted the scriptures provided in MATTHEW 24:24 and 2 PETER 2:1 are not defensive scriptures they are prophetic and are in regards to false teachings coming into the Church, prior to the end of the world. The point being made here is a reference to false teachings and false claims in regards to the end of the world not the other way around. The context to MATTHEW 24:24 is to the signs of the end of the world not to what was happening in the days of JESUS.

 

[james bond]

JUDGEMENT TIME AND THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGEMENT - WILL YOU BE READY?

Hi all, according to the scriptures there will be both an investigative judgement and judgements from God poured out on mankind for those who do not believe and follow God's Word (biblical and Jewish scriptures); so the questions I am asking here are...

1. The investigative judgement what is it for?
2. God's judgements to mankind what are they for?
3. How does one avoid receiving the judgements of God?
4. What is the difference between the investigative judgement and God's judgements?
5. What was the great day of atonement for and why (Yom kippur) ?

I will post some scriptures out of interest to help the discussion on my view for to the OP.

Nice topic. One gets ready through faith in Jesus and that this life is not the real life. It is about what is to come in the second life; You only live twice. We were saved by Jesus' atonement for our sins. Otherwise, we would just die and that's all folks.

1. I think the IJ is for you to explain your life and the decisions you made. There is some video or hologram that plays in order to review. We get rewarded in terms of gold, silver, and precious stones. Does that mean we are rewarded for posting good things here or is this none of the above? Does it mean that one can be a paid poster?
2. I think God's judgements are for the unbelievers and what works they did in life.
3. Faith in John 3:16 or John 14:6.
4. Where it takes place.
5. I dunno.

 

[3rdAngel]

As has been stated, there have been so many doomsday claims by religious nuts there is no way to take them any other way, i suppose there is an alternative, face palm comes to mind. Sure life on this ball or rock may end tomorrow but it be by some natural disaster, not the predictions of a bronze age book

If you agree that there is the possibility of the end of the world by a natural disasters how do you know that this is what is being predicted from the bible or Torah? So you would agree that this is not impossible right? As posted to SZ there have been many false prediction from I believe false teachers that are prophesied would come prior to the end days in the bible and from the very words of JESUS. To me these false teachers teaching the end of all things are only a fulfillment of the scriptures prior to the end of all things in my view. Thanks for sharing your view though .

 

[ChristineM]

If you agree that there is the possibility of the end of the world by a natural disasters how do you know that this is what is being predicted from the bible or Torah? So you would agree that this is not impossible right? As posted to SZ there have been many false prediction from I believe false teachers that are prophesied would come prior to the end days in the bible and from the very words of JESUS. To me these false teachers teaching the end of all things are only a fulfillment of the scriptures prior to the end of all things in my view. Thanks for sharing your view though .

So when the bible gives a date and describes a massive asteroid causing an extinction event or the sun giving a hiccough and bombarding the world with radiation i may think differently. As it stands it is so vague that it may even mean the accident where i i dr
dropped my biscuit.

 

[3rdAngel]

Nice topic. One gets ready through faith in Jesus and that this life is not the real life. It is about what is to come in the second life; You only live twice. We were saved by Jesus' atonement for our sins. Otherwise, we would just die and that's all folks.

1. I think the IJ is for you to explain your life and the decisions you made. There is some video or hologram that plays in order to review. We get rewarded in terms of gold, silver, and precious stones. Does that mean we are rewarded for posting good things here or is this none of the above? Does it mean that one can be a paid poster?
2. I think God's judgements are for the unbelievers and what works they did in life.
3. Faith in John 3:16 or John 14:6.
4. Where it takes place.
5. I dunno.

Hi James thanks for sharing your view. I will share mine a little latter from what I have found in the scriptures. Nice to meet you and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

 

[3rdAngel]

So when the bible gives a date and describes a massive asteroid causing an extinction event or the sun giving a hiccough and bombarding the world with radiation i may think differently. As it stands it is so vague that it may even mean the accident where i i dr
dropped my biscuit.

Well that is my point I was making in relation to false teachers. The bible says no such thing or people try to twist the scriptures to make them say things they are not saying in order to come up with a teaching that the bible is not saying. This is what the scriptures warn would take place prior to the end of the world. This being the case does not mean IMO that the end will not come simply that people got the timing wrong.

 

[ChristineM]

Well that is my point I was making in relation to false teachers. The bible says no such thing or people try to twist the scriptures to make them say things they are not saying in order to come up with a teaching that the bible is not saying. This is what the scriptures warn would take place prior to the end of the world.

Precisely, the bible says nothing of use

 

[TransmutingSoul]

As has been stated, there have been so many doomsday claims by religious nuts there is no way to take them any other way, i suppose there is an alternative, face palm comes to mind.

Sure life on this ball or rock may end tomorrow but it be by some natural disaster, not the predictions of a bronze age book

Just because there is many false predictions, does not mean there will not be truth to it unfolding.

Regards Tony

 

[ChristineM]

Just because there is many false predictions, does not mean there will not be truth to it unfolding.

Regards Tony

I'll wait.

 

[3rdAngel]

Precisely, the bible says nothing

Well actually the bible says quite alot. There has been over 8000 prophecies in the bible many of which are verified in the historical records many are unfolding and many are yet to come.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

If you cannot prove that there isn't a magical fire-unicorn that feeds on heat within the core of Saturn, then claims that there is not are simply something that cannot be proven IMO which means the argument can roll either way.

I would see if your are looking for that, you are not looking for what will happen, to that there is now no doubt. The world will go through great change.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I'll wait.

Many do and many will continue to.

In the end, waiting, not acting, is part of the judgement.

Regards Tony

 

[ChristineM]

Well actually the bible says quite alot. I believe the bible says quite a lot and there has been over 8000 prophecies in the bible many of which are verified in the historical records.

Can you list one or two that can be scientifically validated as accurate bible predictions that have proven correct.

 

[ChristineM]

Many do and many will continue to.

In the end, waiting, not acting, is part of the judgement.

Regards Tony

Who said?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Who said?

I see all Faiths have teachings where our own actions are the judgement against the given standards.

So much so that our justice systems also reflect this.

Regards Tony

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

I take it that you never watch the news. And I think that it is probably a result of someone with a bit of a mental disease that hates the world along with a sprinkling of the religion of one's choice.

Check out the list of end of the world claims in this article. The most famous recent one was Harold Camping:

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia

What you say hits the nail on the head.
There will be no end to the world, for crying out loud.
Nowhere, in the Bible (unless you think the literal word is all there is) does it predict the end of the world, but the religions and televangelists love that concept.
I expect the world will still be here even after the sun has extinguished itself.
And people will have found the technology to survive or will have moved to more hospitable planets. Anyway, there is ample time to find a solution.

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

As has been stated, there have been so many doomsday claims by religious nuts there is no way to take them any other way, i suppose there is an alternative, face palm comes to mind.

Sure life on this ball or rock may end tomorrow but it be by some natural disaster, not the predictions of a bronze age book

I see the end of the world happening every day. For all those who die.
But a literal end of world is religious nonsense.

 

[3rdAngel]

Can you list one or two that can be scientifically validated as accurate bible predictions that have proven correct.

Sure I can list more than one.

One of the reasons we can know the Bible is from God I believe is that it contains many prophecies about individuals, lands, and nations that have come true.

One such prophecy was about a man named Cyrus and two nations: Babylon and the Medo-Persian Empire. Isaiah vividly described how God would destroy the powerful kingdom of Babylon, “the glory of kingdoms” (13:19). Writing as if it had already occurred (commonly known as the “prophetic perfect,” frequently employed in the Old Testament to stress the absolute certainty of fulfillment, i.e. Isaiah 53), Isaiah declared Babylon would fall (21:9). He then prophesied that Babylon would fall to the Medes and Persians (Isa.13; 21:1-10). Later, he proclaimed that the “golden city” (Babylon) would be conquered by a man named Cyrus (44:28; 45:1-7). This is a remarkable prophecy, especially since Cyrus was not born until almost 150 years after Isaiah penned these words.

Not only did Isaiah predict that Cyrus would overthrow Babylon, but he also wrote that Cyrus, serving as Jehovah’s “anointed” and “shepherd,” would release the Jews from captivity and assist them in their return to Jerusalem for the purpose of rebuilding the temple. All of this was written almost 200 years before Cyrus conquered Babylon (539 B.C.).

How about the destruction of Jerusalem in MATTHEW 24?

The coming of JESUS (Messiah) in DANIEL 7:24-25;

The predictions of the History of mankinds world empires foretold in order (Babylon, Medes and Persians, Greece, Rome) DANIAL 2; 7; 8.

There are too many to list here

 

[3rdAngel]

@ all thanks for the friendly discussion. I have to do out for a while now but will be back at a latter time. Wish you all the best.

 

[leov]

JUDGEMENT TIME AND THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGEMENT - WILL YOU BE READY?

Hi all, according to the scriptures there will be both an investigative judgement and judgements from God poured out on mankind for those who do not believe and follow God's Word (biblical and Jewish scriptures); so the questions I am asking here are...

1. The investigative judgement what is it for?
2. God's judgements to mankind what are they for?
3. How does one avoid receiving the judgements of God?
4. What is the difference between the investigative judgement and God's judgements?
5. What was the great day of atonement for and why (Yom kippur) ?

I will post some scriptures out of interest to help the discussion on my view for to the OP.

Judgement is separation if what good and what bad you did. If you understood and repented for bad you done you are not judged for that , only for what you did not fix during your life.