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Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by 3rdAngel, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. ChristineM

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    You also said your gods diet plan was universal

    Do not insult me with ignorance, it does not become you

    Yersinia Pestis is the name of the bacteria that causes plague. Hope you are a little more informed now

    Bats can cause disease. As can fleas.

    However coronaviridae is not Yersinia Pestis. Note the definition you quoted
     
  2. Dave Watchman

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    Congratulations on getting the top of the page.

    Yes.

    What was good for the children of Israel in 1437 BC, would be equally good for the Chinese in 2020.

    And the whole wide world.

    Especially when we include them as the primary ingredient of our soup.

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    Then I'll stand corrected.

    Peaceful Sabbath.
     
  3. ChristineM

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    Like much else, food technology has moved on a long way in 3000 years, pork for example is no longer seen as dirty, shellfish is not a problem. I have eaten snake, tasty. I consider the ritual slaughter of animals for food to be sick, disgusting and inhumane.
    There are some weird things seen as food from country to country. I have eaten things in france considered a no, no in england only 22 miles separate. Snails, frogs legs, horse for example.
    It is not necessary a food problem but a preparation problem.

    But some creatures should most definitely be a no, bats for example.

    And i think you are repeatedly pushing that pic to phase me... Believe me, i have eaten some unusual delicacies, so trust me it doesnt
     
  4. TransmutingSoul

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    I see history shows it is so. ;)

    The moral standards were set in law and I see the source of those standards has been the religions of the world. It is not that long ago that a lot of countries had Laws that were either Christian or Muslim based. It is only the last 300 odd years that man has moved far from many of those laws and made them into their own views of justice.

    It is when the law breaks far away from that God given Standard, that society as a whole starts to break down. I see we are very easily tempted away from what is best for us.

    I see true Liberty is submission unto God's Laws and liberty pursued outside of that law, exerts a pernicious influence on humanity.

    Now it appears that for change to happen, people need to be motivated by disaster.

    Regards Tony
     
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    No way.

    Not me.

    Those things you list are not food.

    I'm not a food guy anyway.

    I have never had lobster in my life, even before i knew That the Lord said not to eat it.

    And how could you eat a horse?

    Eggs, fish, chicken, turkey and beef once and awhile.

    Eggs and fish are the best.

    And I usually go a month without eating beef.

    There was a news story where the farmer fell down. His pigs ate him all up.

    All they found was his false teeth.

    No pork for me.

    Unclean meat.

    Actually, I did find another video.

    But I thought it might be too over the top.

    (They deleted my twitter link that had the torso of the terrorist that got himself blowed up)

    It was a twitter video of a woman that was eating bat soup, and then a man was eating live small mice on a plate with tomatoes in a restaurant..

    The mice looked like babies. They were stunned, or drugged, but were still alive.

    And the guy was picking them up off the plate and eating them with chopsticks.

    Peaceful Sabbath,

    If that's possible at this point.
     
  6. TransmutingSoul

    TransmutingSoul One Planet One People Please
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    There is no majical unicorn.

    There is an all Loving God that has given us guidance though.

    It is neglect of that guidance that shapes the immediate future and the great change to come.

    Regards Tony
     
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    I agree with what you write Tony.

    This is one of the reasons I think that judgement day is happening now. We are in the judgement of the living, where the inner court is being measured.

    When you say: "man has moved far from many of those laws and made them into their own views of justice", this I believe is what Revelation is talking about by everyone will wander after the beast.
    (Everyone who's names have NOT been written in the Lamb's Book of Life before the foundation of the universe)

    The composite beast of Revelation rises from the sea of many nations, and peoples and tongues. We voted the thing in. The people want uncensored streaming porn, legalized abortion, same sex marriage and transvestites in the high school girl's wash room.

    The Dragon, by giving his power, and his throne and his great authority to this composite beast, which has then turned around and legalized these transgressive behaviors, has taken his seat in God's place of authority and is now claiming to BE God.

    1) The Netherlands (2000)

    2) Belgium (2003)

    3) Canada (2005)

    4) Spain (2005)

    5) South Africa (2006)

    6) Norway (2009)

    7) Sweden (2009)

    8) Argentina (2010)

    9) Iceland (2010)

    10) Portugal (2010)

    11) Denmark (2012)

    12) Brazil (2013)

    13) England and Wales (2013)

    14) France (2013)

    15) New Zealand (2013)

    16) Uruguay (2013)

    17) Luxembourg (2014)

    18) Scotland (2014)

    19) Finland: (signed 2015, effective 2017)

    20) Ireland: (2015)

    21) United States: (2015)<-------1290 Days------->Sun/Moon.

    21) United States: (2015)<-------1290 Days------->EofW.

    From the Abomination, until the End of these Wonders.

    Calculate Duration Between Two Dates – Results

    Peaceful Sabbath.
     
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    Hi stvdp, nice to see you again and thanks for sharing your thoughts. Isn't your Guru a man? If so how are you defining "guru" if it is not following a man? Only asking in order to understand what your saying. As a christian I can't speak for everyone but I beleive there is only one God and only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow it. Our scripture also teach that coming to the end times there will be many false religions and teachers seeking to lead many away from God and his Word. This is simply a belief based on the scriptures. For me persoanlly I believe the scriptures also teach God has his people in every religion living up to all the knowledge that God has revealed to them. The time is coming and now is however that he is calling his people wherever they may be to come out of false teachings and to worship him in Spirit and in truth. Those that hear God's voice (the Word) I believe will follow him. Those who will not will not follow.
     
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    In Daniel 9:24-27 we find a prophecy that predicted the year—A.D. 27—that Jesus would begin His ministry. The prophecy also predicted that Jesus’ ministry to “confirm the covenant” would be cut off

    Here are a few of the prominent prophecies given by God through Daniel:

    Four world-ruling empires. In a dream given to King Nebuchadnezzar, God revealed through Daniel that there would be four world-ruling empires (Daniel 2:1-43). Historically, these have proven to be the Babylonian, Medo-Persian, Greco-Macedonian and Roman Empires. Emphasizing the surety of this prophecy, God also gave Daniel a vision in which these empires were represented by four great beasts (Daniel 7:1-3)

    The kingdom of God. After telling King Nebuchadnezzar that there would be four world-ruling kingdoms, Daniel further prophesied: “And in the days of these kings [during the time of human government] the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever” (Daniel 2:44).

    In the repetition of the prophecy about human world-ruling empires, Daniel further noted: “I was watching in the night visions, and behold, One like the Son of Man, coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him near before Him. Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and His kingdom the one which shall not be destroyed” (Daniel 7:13-14).

    A little horn. In God’s vision to Daniel of four beasts, representing four world-ruling kingdoms, the fourth beast “had ten horns” (Daniel 7:7), which we have traditionally understood to represent 10 appearances of this fourth kingdom. Explaining what he had seen, Daniel wrote: “I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words” (verse 8).

    This little horn that Daniel in vision saw “making war against the saints, and prevailing against them” (verse 21) is a religious power that will persecute God’s people at the end of this age (verses 24-25). Known by multiple names—the antichrist, the man of sin and the false prophet—this religious power will play a prominent role in the deception of mankind prior to Christ’s return. Additional references to this little horn are found in Daniel 8:9-12, 23-25.

    The seventy-weeks prophecy. In Daniel 9:24-27 we find a prophecy that predicted the year—A.D. 27—that Jesus would begin His ministry. The prophecy also predicted that Jesus’ ministry to “confirm the covenant” would be cut off

    The prophet begins as he and other young men from Judah were taken captive by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon (Daniel 1:1-4) in approximately 604 B.C. This captivity of citizens of Judah in Babylon lasted for 70 years, as God had foretold through the prophet Jeremiah (Jeremiah 25:11).

    In Daniel 9:24-27 we find a prophecy that predicted the year—A.D. 27

    . Daniel prayed to understand the meaning of his vision and it was interpreted to him that the four great beasts were a representation of earthly kings. The fourth beast was a kingdom dominating the entire Earth, its ten horns representing ten kings. The new horn that supplants the three that were plucked represents a new king that overpowers three of the ten kings and then makes war with God’s followers. This evil king will be supplanted by the Son of Man, who is Jesus Christ. Hence, the final horn represents the Antichrist and his world government, which precedes the Second Coming of the true Christ. (Daniel 7:17-27)

    In Daniel 9:24-27 we find a prophecy that predicted the year—A.D. 27—that Jesus would begin His ministry. The prophecy also predicted that Jesus’ ministry to “confirm the covenant” would be cut off
     
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  10. TransmutingSoul

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    This is the prophecy that also establishes the date of the return of Christ, or that of the end of ages Messiah.

    The starting point to determine Jesus by the 70 and 69 week Prophecy was BC457.

    When we then use the 2300 year prophecy the date comes to 1844, a year many in Christianity and Islam had expected the promise to be fulfilled.

    It was, IMHO

    Regards Tony
     
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    this is saint Augustus its in Italian but it a good prayer

    rispira in me spirito santo, affinche i miei pensieri siano tutti santi.
    agisci in me spirito santo, affince anche il mio lavoro sia santo.
    attira il mio cuore ospirito santo, che amo, ma cio che e santo.
    strena il mio cuore o spirito santo, per defendere tutto cio che e santo custodiscimio
    spirito santo affinche io siasempre santo

    Breathe in me, O Holy Spirit,
    That my thoughts may all be holy.
    Act in me, O Holy Spirit,
    That my work, too, may be holy.
    Draw my heart, O Holy Spirit,
    That I love but what is holy.
    Strengthen me, O Holy Spirit,
    To defend all that is holy.
    Guard me, then, O Holy Spirit,
    That I always may be holy.
     
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    My Guru is not a man.

    Guru = God, so obviously it is not following a man

    I also believe there is only one God. So the one I pray to MUST be the same as the one you pray to
    So my Scripture is God's word and true, as well as your Scripture

    I know. My Guru tells us "Follow God", do not waste your precious time thinking about what others are saying; better to use your time repeating His Name

    :hugehug:
    :hugehug:


    My Guru asks only 3 things of us:
    1) Think of God 24 hours per day
    2) ...
    3) ...
     
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    Oh no, the source of moral standards is civilisation that gave rise to religion. Religion in turn, took those moral standards and weaponized them by excluding any who dont worship as they do.

    Yes it is unfortunate that religion interfered with politics, the world is slowly seeing the error of those dark times

    I do not believe so, when laws become set by democratic means they are no longer biassed towards the religious elite

    And who is to say what is best for us? Is that your view of what is best for us or is it a democratic decision of what is best for us?

    I see precisely the opposite and your statement is contradictory. Liberty is freedom from submission to authority.
     
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    My reading of the Bible has no end of world. Also, I cannot think of anything there that predicts the future (of the world). I will keep an eye out.
     
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    It seems to me that most people take what is written in the Bible as nothing more than one person speaking to another. These same people claim it is written by God, and also claim that God is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient.
    A God with all those omni-s, may be possibly saying something that it much much more incredible, than the earthly literal interpretation, yet unseen, by most eyes.

    How many times does the Lord say something like “if you have eyes see” and “if you have ears hear”.
     
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    I am something of a food lover and yes, they are food, but maybe not food you like or approve of.

    How could I eat horse? It was on the menu and i had not eaten it before. Different countries, different food mores. For example America has rocky mountain oysters (bulls testicles) and spray on cheese (never tried the oysters and wouldn't touch spray on anything) . Japan has fugu (tried it), the chef gets preparation wrong and you are dead.

    I never had mice live or otherwise, i understand dormouse was a Roman delicacy. I have eaten live fish but its a rather long story so i wont recount it.
     
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    That’s a lot of prophecies.
     
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    Hi shmogie,

    Actually your post here is not correct and misleading possibly because there is a lot of misinformation out on the web. The investigative judgement is biblical as shown in the scriptures starting on page 5 in post # 81 linked. The of the investigative judgement however did not start with the Millerite movement. This movement was made up from many different protestant churches from around the world. It was a world-wide movement and all those who believed his teachings were called "Adventist" (not to be confused with Seventh Day Adventists that did not start until 1861 sometime after the Adventist movement of Miller 1833-1844) because they believed that timeline 1844 pointed to the 2nd coming of JESUS.

    This was a multi christian religious movement that spanned right across the world at that time (1833-1844). I believe they got the dates correct IMO according to the scriptures but the event wrong (2nd coming).

    Some time latter after the great dissappointment of 1844 some of those who were in the Millerite movement that studied further applied the dates to the beginning of the investigative judgement instead of the 2nd coming which was Millers view after a further study of the scrpiture from the Old Testament in relation to the Sanctuary, and LEVITICUS 23 and the feast of trumpets and the great day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) which lead some to view the end of the timeline leading to 1844 was to the investigative Judgement and the cleansing of the Sanctuary in Heaven of which the earthly was a copy.

    Other Churches came out of this movement. The Seventh Day Adventists hold a different belief to that of the Millerite movment. Though they accept the timlines with application to the investigative judgement and not the 2nd coming of Christ.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    I'll be fine with a bag of Doritos.

    Thanks anyway.

    Man Pulls 5 1/2-Foot-Long Tapeworm Out Of His Body, Blames Sushi Habit
    January 19, 20183:59 PM ET

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/19
    /579130873/man-pulls-5-1-2-foot-long-tapeworm-out-of-his-body-blames-sushi-habit​

    Be sure to click on the full size version. The worm is quite fascinating. Maybe they can eventually find their way onto the menu. It may turn out to be a rare delicacy item. (After they pull that pubic hair off)

    [​IMG]
    The tapeworm wrapped around a paper cylinder

    Stuff Of Nightmares: Thai Man Pulls 32-Foot-Long Tapeworm Out Of His Bum
    A man in northeastern Thailand has just experienced something that's stuff for nightmares.
    By Caezar Sotto

    12/11/19 AT 10:34 AM​

    [​IMG]
    (It looks like he needs to cut his finger nails too. He could do it while he's on the loo)

    Some of the photographs show the worm still wriggling up on the toilet. After taking some snaps, Mr. Ratprachoom then flushed the slithering parasite down the loo.

    But the worst part isn't over. According to the Mirror, the tapeworm rose out of the oblivion and somewhat survived to pester him again. He said that he had just finished dropping his kid off at school and some errands when he had to use the bathroom for the second time that day.

    Stuff Of Nightmares: Thai Man Pulls 32-Foot-Long Tapeworm Out Of His Bum

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    Never eaten tapeworm
     
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