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Is Trump Fit To remain as the President of the USA?

sooda

Veteran Member
Trump's always been that way , no nonsense, boisterous, crass... It's his personality. Big deal. Whoopty Doo.

Yet his intent has always been to see things through and get the job done. That's what's important .

It's so alien to so many people today who have been spoon-fed utter bull**** im not surprised in the least that the reaction by them is mental degradation.

A fair number of people just aren't used to an Alpha president. It's high time they did, and recognize the benefits of having a strong leader with a clear vision.

It's why he got elected by most of the states.

Trump has been a liar and a cheat his whole life. He's cheated contractors, vendors, employees, bankers and wives. He has also whined that the system is against him since the 1980s.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Trump has been a liar and a cheat his whole life. He's cheated contractors, vendors, employees, bankers and wives. He has also whined that the system is against him since the 1980s.

Everybody whines in New York. Makes you wonder who the real whiners are?

Trump, or people whining about Trump?

Everybody however doesn't have Trump Tower to show what happens when you put your mind to something.

Trump gets things done. Trump as President gets things done.

If he's a lying cheating whiner, then he's a lying cheating whiner who gets things done and does everything to accomplish what he says he will accomplish.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So...Revoltingest... do you still want to desperately cling to the idea that Don the Conman is NOT an absolute failure....
We have irreconcilable differences in how we evaluate a president.

You want him to be a parental figure...someone you respect for
personal traits. To you, he's an "absolute failure" solely because
he's awful, ie, you hate him instead of love him. And from your
perspective, you're absolutely correct.

I don't care about him as a person or even a president. I evaluate
his performance by what he has actually effected, which is a mixed
bag, not an absolute failure a couple years into office.
Some positives.....
- Unlike Dubya, he's started no useless wars.
- His 2 USSC justice appointments have been good.
- His income tax reform greatly curbed subsidies for mansions,
& made depreciation of assets more reasonable.
- The First Step Act.

If all you want is to love your leader, my criteria won't matter to you.
You'll just continue to rail against him with histrionic epithets.
That's OK. We just want different things.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Trump's always been that way , no nonsense, boisterous, crass... It's his personality. Big deal. Whoopty Doo.

Yet his intent has always been to see things through and get the job done. That's what's important .

It's so alien to so many people today who have been spoon-fed utter bull**** im not surprised in the least that the reaction by them is mental degradation.

A fair number of people just aren't used to an Alpha president. It's high time they did, and recognize the benefits of having a strong leader with a clear vision.

It's why he got elected by most of the states.
You really ought to be more humane towards yourself and your own people.

You are talking at comic book villain level. Do you realize that?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You really ought to be more humane towards yourself and your own people.

You are talking at comic book villain level. Do you realize that?
I just think people ought to toughen up a little more. It's less detrimental to have some teflon skin. Otherwise this reactive and sensitive culture at present will continue to degrade and go nuts more than it has already.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Everybody whines in New York. Makes you wonder who the real whiners are?

Trump, or people whining about Trump?

Everybody however doesn't have Trump Tower to show what happens when you put your mind to something.

Trump gets things done. Trump as President gets things done.

If he's a lying cheating whiner, then he's a lying cheating whiner who gets things done and does everything to accomplish what he says he will accomplish.

Trump has always whined to the press.. and courted the press whether print media or television for over 30 years.

He is also big on taking credit for the work of others.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
As a person he is unfit.
It is far too soon to judge the results.
What he has done, and is still to do, will have ramifications for years to come.
It will be interesting to see what washes out at the end of it all.

Almost certainly some people will benefit, most probably will not.
The results on the world with his bizarre lack of scientific knowledge, can only be bad.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I just think people ought to toughen up a little more. It's less detrimental to have some teflon skin. Otherwise this reactive and sensitive culture at present will continue to degrade and go nuts more than it has already.
You have officially lost me.

I have no idea of whether you are even serious. I might as well flip a coin to guess.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
I just think people ought to toughen up a little more. It's less detrimental to have some teflon skin. Otherwise this reactive and sensitive culture at present will continue to degrade and go nuts more than it has already.

Trump kept losing his shirt when he was building "towers".. He didn't stop going bankrupt until he started selling his name to one project after another. His tax break on Trump Tower in NYC runs out soon.. Watch how fast it falls into disrepair.. His residents are going to take a bath.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Trump kept losing his shirt when he was building "towers".. He didn't stop going bankrupt until he started selling his name to one project after another. His tax break on Trump Tower in NYC runs out soon.. Watch how fast it falls into disrepair.. His residents are going to take a bath.
Well there's only one way we're going to find out. See what reality will put forth.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
But the entire world identifies YOU with him. And they identify ME with him. And he is supposed to represent ALL of US. And he is supposed to represent the strength, and honor, and IDEALS of our nation.
Check that. Unfortunately, he DOES represent all those things. :(:oops::(:mad::mad::(:(:oops:

The rest of the world can pound sand...try making it on your own for a change.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Your point, far as I can figure it out, is that you are too attached to a fantasy that happens to have Trump as a trigger.
My fantasy is more informed than yours, which is based entirely
about how you feel about him as a person, a parent as it were.
But that's OK. Your view is quite common, & I understand it.
We so disagree here.
I advise becoming comfortable with disagreement.
Certainly, one cannot expect others to thing the same
way, & endure anguish over not converting them.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
My fantasy is more informed than yours, which is based entirely
about how you feel about him as a person, a parent as it were.
But that's OK. Your view is quite common, & I understand it.

I feel almost offended. In any case, do not expect reciprocation. You would have to work for it, and you refuse to.

I advise becoming comfortable with disagreement.
Certainly, one cannot expect others to thing the same
way, & endure anguish over not converting them.
True, and entirely besides the point.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I feel almost offended. In any case, do not expect reciprocation. You would have to work for it, and you refuse to.
Hey, you're the one who ciprocated with the "fantasy"
barb. I merely reciprocated with an observation.
You really should eschew the certainty that you have
The Truth, & that those who disagree are wrongo pongo.
True, and entirely besides the point.
Tis useful nonetheless.
 
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