loganonekenobi
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One of the main arguments for a theistic world view that I have heard many times is the idea that our reality had to be created by something/one.
It seems logical as the patterns that we see in our reality do point to the idea that it all had a beginning. From what we observe things that have a start usually have a cause.
Unfortunately we cannot know for sure on the subject of the start of our universe. Also, sadly, the answer "we don't know" does not sit well with the common person.
Thus comes in the Theist to save the day and give us the comfort of believing we are important to the universe.
All this aside, one must come to the conclusion that this argument by itself is a deistic position strictly speaking. As I have said before, I have no conflict with the deist.
Now comes the plot of this thread.
Even if I, as an atheist, concede that it is possible maybe even probable that the universe had a "creator" the theist still must provide good sound reasoning as to why his/her's particular faith is correct and all the other wrong. Not all religions tout the idea that their story is true and all others are just stories.
however, it is easy to point to the monotheistic, Mesionic, Abrahamic faiths as clearly in the category of exclusive claims to truth.
Of great importance in this discussion is the fact that the common person is 80% likely to take on the faith of the culture they were raised in.
You would be surprised at how many people adamantly reject the idea that they are a product of their community and geography when it comes to faith.
I point out this fact because what I want are answers from those that truly considered their faith position apart from the way they were raised in as much as possible.
So please give me your reasons that you believe that your faith is correct and all others are false.
If this does not describe you then please tell me how you are able to be inclusive of other faiths.
It seems logical as the patterns that we see in our reality do point to the idea that it all had a beginning. From what we observe things that have a start usually have a cause.
Unfortunately we cannot know for sure on the subject of the start of our universe. Also, sadly, the answer "we don't know" does not sit well with the common person.
Thus comes in the Theist to save the day and give us the comfort of believing we are important to the universe.
All this aside, one must come to the conclusion that this argument by itself is a deistic position strictly speaking. As I have said before, I have no conflict with the deist.
Now comes the plot of this thread.
Even if I, as an atheist, concede that it is possible maybe even probable that the universe had a "creator" the theist still must provide good sound reasoning as to why his/her's particular faith is correct and all the other wrong. Not all religions tout the idea that their story is true and all others are just stories.
however, it is easy to point to the monotheistic, Mesionic, Abrahamic faiths as clearly in the category of exclusive claims to truth.
Of great importance in this discussion is the fact that the common person is 80% likely to take on the faith of the culture they were raised in.
You would be surprised at how many people adamantly reject the idea that they are a product of their community and geography when it comes to faith.
I point out this fact because what I want are answers from those that truly considered their faith position apart from the way they were raised in as much as possible.
So please give me your reasons that you believe that your faith is correct and all others are false.
If this does not describe you then please tell me how you are able to be inclusive of other faiths.