Jesus said nothing about "getting better" at obeying The Second Command. Either a person does it, or does not.
I guess he doesn't want anyone in heaven that he has to spell everything out to.
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Jesus said nothing about "getting better" at obeying The Second Command. Either a person does it, or does not.
I have said nothing about converting either yourself or anyone else. I have nothing to do with your spirituality. You stand before God, not before me. Your ideological "position" does not concern me.You have the Right to practice whatever religion you want to.
You have the Right to believe whatever you want to.
You have the Right to live your OWN PERSONAL LIFE as per those beliefs.
And I have the Right to REJECT ALL OF IT.
The reason for that is found in these links to FACTS:
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https://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/contradictions.htm
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If you are going to "convert" me, you will have to REFUTE THE FACTS presented at the above links.
If you can't, then you will have to re-examine your position.........
My best regards,
Karl S,
I guess he doesn't want anyone in heaven that he has to spell everything out to.
Jesus said nothing about "selfless love." Neither that phrase nor that concept appears in Scripture.
Please upgrade your basic reading comprehension.
His Commands spell out all you need to do.
Jesus never said His Commands are a "guide." Lol.Not according to his Apostles. His commands are not a written code but a guide for the spirit. So if you use the commands as a written code, as a legalist would do, you break a commandment.
Jesus never said His Commands are a "guide." Lol.
You add your weak opinion to Scripture with no concept of doing so.
Tell me, were Jesus' Commands a "guide?" Did He state that ... ? Lol.I guess we are to all accept your godliness while you focus on being petty and insulting. Sorry, I'll pass.
"What Do You Know Of Jesus Beyond What Is Disclosed In Scripture About Him?"
Yes. Now inform us what Jesus would do in response to all of the homeless people standing on the streets and roads asking for money, which most of them will use for alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs. Are they not your neighbors with whom you have come onto contact, just as the Samaritan?If we did not rely on scripture, there would be very little knowledge of Christ or his teachings. How would we know anything about God, his son or his purpose for this earth if it wasn't for God's word?
Do you not think you might have have taken things a bit too far? When Christians were not in a position to physically help a fellow Christian out, they were told to pray for those ones. If we see our brother in need and we are able to help, we are to fill that need if it comes to our attention.
James wrote...."Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead." (James 2:14-17)
This is Christians helping out fellow believers in their congregation which isn't a difficult thing to do if you know your brothers and sisters and their circumstances. This is why congregations were kept small so that the shepherds could monitor the "flock" under their care and let others know when help was needed.
In a wider view, those who needed assistance in the brotherhood outside of their local congregation were the subject of prayers and contributions collected for that purpose. Orphans and widows had no breadwinner so their plight was addressed by the brothers who could afford to help. Oftentimes governments will provide for these ones with a modest income. As this comes out of taxpayers money, it is granted to all citizens who are in need and who cannot work for some reason. Christians are exemplary tax payers, (or they should be) so this is not charity.
Paul wrote at 2 Corinthians 8:12-15...."For if the readiness is there first, it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have. 13 For I do not mean for it to be easy for others, but hard on you; 14 but that by means of an equalizing your surplus just now might offset their deficiency, in order that their surplus might also come to offset your deficiency, that an equalizing might take place. 15 Just as it is written: “The person with much did not have too much, and the person with little did not have too little.”
If all followed this practice, then none in the brotherhood would be disadvantaged by hard times.
Jehovah's Witnesses operate by this standard. We all look after one another locally, and contribute to World Wide fund, so that when a natural disaster strikes, we are equipped to step in immediately with help for our brothers and others who might accept our assistance.
Individual circumstances would be handled locally. We believe that God moves people to help those who fall on hard times in the congregation. These are viewed as our spiritual family, so just as we would help those related to us in the flesh, so we want to help those in our spiritual family just as much. The need of course would not be as a result of free-loading like some do with church run charities.
There are only two laws that Jesus spoke about.....whole-hearted Love of God and treating our neighbor as ourselves.
In the parable of the Good Samaritan, it was a hated Samaritan who was the hero. The Jews were the villains. The parable was to show his Jewish audience that their "neighbors" are any person with whom we happen to come into contact, who needs help, regardless of race or religion. It would not have been unusual for Jews in that period to feel that a Samaritan was unworthy of their time and attention. But this man had been stripped of his clothing by robbers and left for dead. He had no identifying garments to indicate his nationality. This was a Jewish man, ignored by those who were his spiritual brothers and given assistance by someone they looked down on. It was a powerful lesson.
The 'law of Love' as it is sometimes called, meant that love was to govern everything they did, as if they were rendering that service to God himself. As the apostle John stated...."By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” (John 13:35) As James said, it isn't what you say, but what you d,o and the attitude with which you do it.
This is what it means to know Jesus I believe....doing what Jesus would do.
Tell me, were Jesus' Commands a "guide?" Did He state that ... ? Lol.
Yes, you have justified your Theological weakness and limits of wisdom.I was going to write you a long post about this, but realized I didn't have enough gasoline to set a rock on fire. Your really are testing the boundaries of my self- control, thankfully my ego doesn't need to be appeased. I'm not interested in trading Bible verses with you, this is the Theological Concepts DIR not the Christianity DIR, I thought we were having a conversation. I'll leave this thread here with my disappointment, lol.
Yes, you have justified your Theological weakness and limits of wisdom.
Did you add your opinion to Scripture?I guess we are to all accept your godliness while you focus on being petty and insulting. Sorry, I'll pass.
"gods and goddesses" says it all. Lol. Yes, they all are ready to talk with you. And chat with feeling based ideas.You know nothing but the scrabbling of a few jackasses hopped up on shrooms, IMHO. I digress in the end it's not all that important. I think am mostly irritated at how boring and predictable your responses are... It certainly isn't being intimidated by your sharp wit, or wisdom. So, don't even think for one moment of your life that's happening.
Unlike you, I'm allowed to converse with my Gods and Goddesses and they don't even tell me what to do. I'm just on the next level of spiritual freedom yo... You're like a dog on a leash, by comparison.
"gods and goddesses" says it all. Lol. Yes, they all are ready to talk with you. And chat with feeling based ideas.
BTW, you are posting in the wrong Forum, here. You need to be with those who also converse with demons. Oops, I mean "gods and goddesses."
Yes. Now inform us what Jesus would do in response to all of the homeless people standing on the streets and roads asking for money, which most of them will use for alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs. Are they not your neighbors with whom you have come onto contact, just as the Samaritan?
Please refrain from answering with milque toast and churchy sounding platitudes which twist Commands into metaphores.
Actually it is evidentYour "of course" is presumed. Are you actually confident all of Christ was revealed?
If you know Christ, then you will know His Mind and Heart. If so, then you will be both duplicating and exceding His Works as He said in John 14:12 His "believers" would do. And, you will be comprehending Scripture as did He.
So, are these two things true of You? Yes? No?
You have neither been trained nor authorized to speak "We" to represent other people. Doing so easily indicates your patronizing and presumptuous attitude.
As well, the issue here is not about dedication to Christ. Rather, it is about the specification from God Himself that, according to 1 John 2:3, the only means of knowing Christ is through obeying His Commands.
None of your special, touchy/feely emotions about Jesus show that you know Him. In fact, Jesus never asked anyone how they "feel" about Him. Jesus never commanded anyone to "feel" anything about Him. Finally, nobody here, and especially not Jesus Himself, expects you to "imagine" any Spiritual Principles or Truth.
Now, tell me what you know about Christ other than what is given in Scripture. Just do it.