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What is wrong with Trump?

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Ok. I get it, the three UCLA players ought to be greatful of not facing 10 years of hard time in Chinese prison. I know, that if they were average citizens they would be serving 10 years, but Trump ia going off the rails with his antics.

Having an expectation via twitter is simply immature. This is a grown man in the white house in a position of power. He ought to know their fate was in his hands that alone ought to give him the comfort that he singlehandedly had them freed. But because Lavar Ball made his comment now they should have been left in jail based on the comments of one man?

How old is Trump again?

 
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BSM1

What? Me worry?
You may have a point. Next let's start a thread about the ungratefulness of a father whose son may have been spared multiple years in a Chinese prison by a immature benefactor. While we're at it, let's start a sub-thread about the same ungrateful father who believes his son was entitled to break the Chinese law.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Ok. I get it, the three UCLA players ought to be greatful of not facing 10 years of hard time in Chineae prison. I know, that if they were average citizens they would be serving 10 years, but Trump ia going off the rails with hia antics.
While Trump is handling this slight badly, I didn't infer from Trump's question
that "they should have been left in jail". It struck me as more of a challenge
to the father's ungrateful assessment of Trump's role.

If these kids did actually shoplift in China (which seems to be the case),
how utterly ignorant this would be....
- They're in an oppressive foreign country with a poor civil rights record.
- Going there with celebrity status, they're representing their home country.
- China has its share of racism, & this exacerbates it.
- Stealing is wrong.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
You may have a point. Next let's start a thread about the ungratefulness of a father whose son may have been spared multiple years in a Chinese prison by a immature benefactor. While we're at it, let's start a sub-thread about the same ungrateful father who believes his son was entitled to break the Chinese law.

I agree the father was ungrateful, but no reason for Trump to stoop to his level.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
While Trump is handling this slight badly, I didn't infer from Trump's question
that "they should have been left in jail". It struck me as more of a challenge
to the father's ungrateful assessment of Trump's role.

If these kids did actually shoplift in China (which seems to be the case),
how utterly ignorant this would be....
- They're in an oppressive foreign country with a poor civil rights record.
- Going there with celebrity status, they're representing their home country.
- Stealing is wrong.

Whether the dad was ungrateful or not is insignificant. Lavar ball is not running the United States. Trump on a global scale is bigger than ball he should have kept quiet. What matters is the students thanked #45 and are going to be suspended.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Whether the dad was ungrateful or not is insignificant. Lavar ball is not running the United States. Trump on a global scale is bigger than ball he should have kept quiet. What matters is the students thanked #45 and are going to be suspended.
I agree.
But I disagreed with your inference from his question.
Trump deserves criticism.....but fair & accurate criticism.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Ok. I get it, the three UCLA players ought to be greatful of not facing 10 years of hard time in Chinese prison. I know, that if they were average citizens they would be serving 10 years, but Trump ia going off the rails with his antics.

Having an expectation via twitter is simply immature. This is a grown man in the white house in a position of power. He ought to know their fate was in his hands that alone ought to give him the comfort that he singlehandedly had them freed. But because Lavar Ball made his comment now they should have been left in jail based on the comments of one man?

How old is Trump again?


Trump is lowering the standards for all future president when it comes to class.

Personally, he shouldn't have intervened. Those players should have been punished accordingly in China and let this be a warning for others. They got a free pass because they were part of UCLA and one was a son of Ball. This was just a PR for Trump unless he's willing to talk to Xi about every American that breaks laws in China.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Whether the dad was ungrateful or not is insignificant. Lavar ball is not running the United States. Trump on a global scale is bigger than ball he should have kept quiet. What matters is the students thanked #45 and are going to be suspended.

I'm sure the dad was grateful but he's actually very business savvy and IMO took another opportunity to draw attention to his brand with Trump's rebuttle.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I'm sure the dad was grateful but he's actually very business savvy and IMO took another opportunity to draw attention to his brand with Trump's rebuttle.

Perhaps this was his intent although from a social outlook he appears to be an arrogant overzealous father. Ball will fade in obscurity when his sons go to the NBA D league.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
So let me get this straight, some people go to another country and break their laws, a person with political pull gets them off and somehow he is the bad guy in all this.
Did I get that right or did I miss something? Is there such a thing as American privilege?
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
So let me get this straight, some people go to another country and break their laws, a person with political pull gets them off and somehow he is the bad guy in all this.
Did I get that right or did I miss something? Is there such a thing as American privilege?

No, the problem is his twitter usage. The problem is this guy has expectations when in reality nobody should expect anything. The problem is, he is allowing one's father's opinion to dictate his attitude. the problem is he took to twitter because he got offended by one man's opinion of him. The problem is he went to twitter to complain about said person's opinion. The problem is he used twitter like a teenager. The problem is....You get the idea.
 
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