Noahidism

[Rival]

This description reminds me of Zoroastrianism a bit. . . the belief that doing good wasn't just a method of living well or gaining favor, but it actually helps Mazda by punching the evil God in the face with your goodness.

Were't you once Zoroastrian? What changed, and what makes your current faith more appealing? Does that concept of being good carry over into your current understanding?

I never felt a spiritual connexion to Mazda like I do to HaShem. Also Judaism makes more sense to me. But yes I suppose the concept of 'good' may have carried.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

What do you mean?

As in you stay to yourself? As in your movement does not collaborate with other groups. I find it quite odd considering there are orthodox Jews that collaborate with Muslims and Christians.

 

[Rival]

As in you stay to yourself? As in your movement does not collaborate with other groups. I find it quite odd considering there are orthodox Jews that collaborate with Muslims and Christians.

Why should we need to collaborate with Muslims and Christians? What exactly do you mean by this?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Why should we need to collaborate with Muslims and Christians? What exactly do you mean by this?

Well for one, you all believe in the same God, the God of Abraham and perhaps having a coordinated effort with other groups would expand knowledge of your faith/movement to others.

 

[Katzpur]

Noahide is the Jewish version of Mormonism.

Noah wrote Seven Laws on a Tablet and this religion claims to know the laws that is written on it, so where is the Tablet? where are the Golden Plates?

Where are the Ten Commandments?

 

[Rival]

Where are the Ten Commandments?

Exodus 20.

Why?

 

[Rival]

Well for one, you all believe in the same God, the God of Abraham and perhaps having a coordinated effort with other groups would expand knowledge of your faith/movement to others.

That we believe in the same G-d is debatable. And we're not a proselytist movement.

 

[Rival]

@Katzpur Sorry, I never saw who you quoted. I have him on ignore.

 

[SabahTheLoner]

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Respect G‑d's creatures. At first, Man was forbidden to consume meat. After the Great Flood, he was permitted - but with a warning: Do not cause unnecessary suffering to any creature.

Tumah, the same person who made the original Noachide thread, replied to a thread I created about animal sacrifice before, which you can see here: Animal sacrifice; when is it okay?
I guess that in Judaism animal sacrifice isn't permitted in the present and they are waiting for the right time to come around for it to come to use again. Does the same apply to Noachides or is it slightly different?

 

[Rival]

Tumah, the same person who made the original Noachide thread, replied to a thread I created about animal sacrifice before, which you can see here: Animal sacrifice; when is it okay?
I guess that in Judaism animal sacrifice isn't permitted in the present and they are waiting for the right time to come around for it to come to use again. Does the same apply to Noachides or is it slightly different?

B'nei Noach have no sacrificial system.

 

[DavidFirth]

I don't see a valid solution for the sin problem. Since no human being is capable of observing any set of laws 100% there must be a way to atone for breaking them. How does one atone?

 

[Rival]

I don't see a valid solution for the sin problem. Since no human being is capable of observing any set of laws 100% there must be a way to atone for breaking them. How does one atone?

Repentance through prayer.

If any Christian ever bothered to read the book of Jonah he'd understand.

 

[WalterTrull]

At first, Man was forbidden to consume meat. After the Great Flood, he was permitted

I think I'm going to read more about that. There's something there. Don't know what yet.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

This description reminds me of Zoroastrianism a bit. . . the belief that doing good wasn't just a method of living well or gaining favor, but it actually helps Mazda by punching the evil God in the face with your goodness.

Damn, this reminds me of Minsc...

"Face-punching for goodness!"

 

[Katzpur]

Exodus 20.

Why?

Okay. Well, the contents of Mormonism's golden plates are found in The Book of Mormon.

 

[Katzpur]

@Katzpur Sorry, I never saw who you quoted. I have him on ignore.

Might not be a bad idea.

 

[Tumah]

I guess that in Judaism animal sacrifice isn't permitted in the present and they are waiting for the right time to come around for it to come to use again. Does the same apply to Noachides or is it slightly different?

B'nei Noach have no sacrificial system.

It is however permitted for non-Jews to offer animal sacrifice to G-d (specifically, the burnt offering). The prohibition of only offering sacrifices on the Temple altar once its place had been determined doesn't extend to non-Jews. It needs to be on a stone platform, a kosher animal or bird and it can't be missing any limbs.

I've heard it said that certain rabbis were known to have said that if they ever found out that they're not Jewish, the first thing they'd do is a sacrifice to G-d since it would be permitted.

 

[DavidFirth]

Repentance through prayer.

If any Christian ever bothered to read the book of Jonah he'd understand.

I've read Jonah. So do the Jews still do the sacrifices commanded by God through Moses?

 

[Rival]

I've read Jonah. So do the Jews still do the sacrifices commanded by God through Moses?

No. What's your point? Sacrifices aren't always necessary. Repentance is key.

If you are just here to derail my thread with Christian nonsense, you can take it somewhere else.

 

[DavidFirth]

No. What's your point? Sacrifices aren't always necessary. Repentance is key.

If you are just here to derail my thread with Christian nonsense, you can take it somewhere else.

Rival, you're the one who stated that "If any Christian ever bothered to read the book of Jonah he'd understand."

So enlighten me. Why did Moses command that the sacrifices be done to atone for sin if they are not necessary?