Liberal Christians,are they here at Religious forums?

[columbus]

Which actually makes sense because different cultures must adapt to different situations within their own environment. This is why I simply cannot accept the concept of there being one god just going to one group of people in just one area of the world at just one time.

I can condense that down to "I believe in God, but not Prophets".
Tom

 

[metis]

I can condense that down to "I believe in God, but not Prophets".

No prophets??? Then you are not a capitalist!

 

[omega2xx]

My reference was from 'The Critical Meaning of the Bible'. As far as the Catholicity of it is concerned it carries the Nihil Obstat and the Imprimatur. It is within Catholic orthodoxy.

Thanks for clarifying the source of your statement. It is still not Biblical.


...nor are you to break any bone of it----coming to Jesus, when they saw He was dead, they did not break His legs---for these things came to pass to fulfill the Scripture, not a bone of Him shall be broken.

 

[pearl]

Thanks for clarifying the source of your statement. It is still not Biblical.

Neither is the most of the dogmas of the Church, 'sacrament' is no where to be found in the Bible, yet they can be shown to be derived from the actions of Christ or the early church.

 

[omega2xx]

Neither is the most of the dogmas of the Church, 'sacrament' is no where to be found in the Bible, yet they can be shown to be derived from the actions of Christ or the early church.

Most dogma of conservative Protestant churches do have Biblical support. Some like the sacraments are supported by reason from some Scripture, some are not. IMO some of the things the Catholic church calls a sacrament(penance. holy orders, marriage, confirmation, extreme unction) should be considered a sacrament.

 

[Riders]

How would you define that term, anyway?

I define Liberal Christian as a Christian who does not believe the bible is the perfect infallible word of God with no mistakes made by people. I also a church who is embracing of accepting of gays and Lesbians and pro choice folks.

I usually see Christians arguing up here about the Bible with the evangelical attitude of the perfect infallible word of God read word for word as is.

 

[columbus]

How would you define that term, anyway?

I live in Jesustan. I am not particularly religious, but I am familiar with a wide assortment of Christians.

I define "Liberal Christian " as the rational ones. The ones who follow the Teachings of Jesus, especially when they are expressed in modern vernacular, rather than ancient selfserving legalisms.
Tom

 

[omega2xx]

Neither is the most of the dogmas of the Church, 'sacrament' is no where to be found in the Bible, yet they can be shown to be derived from the actions of Christ or the early church.

I define Liberal Christian as a Christian who does not believe the bible is the perfect infallible word of God with no mistakes made by people. I also a church who is embracing of accepting of gays and Lesbians and pro choice folks.

I usually see Christians arguing up here about the Bible with the evangelical attitude of the perfect infallible word of God read word for word as is.

You belong to one of the most liberal denominations in America. One that thinks man is smarter that God.

 

[metis]

You belong to one of the most liberal denominations in America. One that thinks man is smarter that God.

You obviously haven't done much in regards to church-hopping as some of the more mainline Protestant churches definitely beat the RCC on this, and the second sentence frankly is a pathetic bold-faced lie. By posting such things, you end up demeaning yourself much more than the RCC. I don't see Catholics posting such insulting and bigoted words towards Protestants, including Presbyterians.

 

[omega2xx]

You obviously haven't done much in regards to church-hopping as some of the more mainline Protestant churches definitely beat the RCC on this,

Since I accept very little RCC theology, your statement is irrelevant.

and the second sentence frankly is a pathetic bold-faced lie.

Unless you can prove my statement wrong, and you can't, your statgementg is tghe bold face lie.

By posting such things, you end up demeaning yourself much more than the RCC. I don't see Catholics posting such insulting and bigoted words towards Protestants, including Presbyterians.

Unless you can show my statement wrong, your statement is irrelevant. The current pope and all those preceding him has said Protestant churches are not real churches. How much more insulting can a religious leader be?

 

[metis]

Since I accept very little RCC theology, your statement is irrelevant.



Unless you can prove my statement wrong, and you can't, your statgementg is tghe bold face lie.



Unless you can show my statement wrong, your statement is irrelevant. The current pope and all those preceding him has said Protestant churches are not real churches. How much more insulting can a religious leader be?

And I certainly don't accept your fabricated "theology" on the RCC.

 

[omega2xx]

And I certainly don't accept your fabricated "theology" on the RCC.

That Protestant churches are not real churches has been standard RCC theology for 100's of years, and the current pope said it about 2 years ago.

So what is fabricated is your statement.

 

[columbus]

Since I accept very little RCC theology, your statement is irrelevant.

The Church likes to make a big deal out of papal succession. But in a very real way the RCC came into being with Nicea when they wrote the Apostolic Creed. That is the foundation of RCC theology. Is there a part of that you don't accept?
Tom

 

[metis]

That Protestant churches are not real churches has been standard RCC theology for 100's of years, and the current pope said it about 2 years ago.

Could you show us that quote?

 

[Kenny]

Most dogma of conservative Protestant churches do have Biblical support.

That's new to me. Can you expand?

 

[Kenny]

Could you show us that quote?

Omega "That Protestant churches are not real churches has been standard RCC theology for 100's of years, and the current pope said it about 2 years ago."

Last year a video from the Pope was played as he spoke to a Protestant minister's conference. In it he called the ministers brothers and basically asked forgiveness for the divide and prayed for the ministers. We, in turn, sent a video with a prayer for him.

 

[pearl]

IMO some of the things the Catholic church calls a sacrament(penance. holy orders, marriage, confirmation, extreme unction) should be considered a sacrament.

The reasoning is that these 'sacraments' are understood as actions of Jesus. What used to be called 'extreme unction' is a rite in which the final sacrament of Eucharist (viaticum) is received.

 

[Brickjectivity]

OK. Now explain why they teach liberalism.

I said I could learn it from scripture in response to your claim that I could not. I never claimed anyone could force you to reconsider your opinion. For me these are resplendent.

 

[Milton Platt]

I live in Jesustan. I am not particularly religious, but I am familiar with a wide assortment of Christians.

I define "Liberal Christian " as the rational ones. The ones who follow the Teachings of Jesus, especially when they are expressed in modern vernacular, rather than ancient selfserving legalisms.
Tom

Why do you feel it is rational to believe something based upon faith, since one can (and people do) believe virtually anything based on faith?

 

[columbus]

Why do you feel it is rational to believe something based upon faith, since one can (and people do) believe virtually anything based on faith?

It depends on how important it is. I am not going to believe that some human knows more about God than I do based solely on faith in the human making the claim.
Tom