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The argument has degraded because of you. You brought up a point about reproduction, I responded to your point and asked you a question. Then you get rude with me. I answered all your questions. You call me a "troll", when I answer your damn question. Now you're going on about some other nonsense. Go fly a kite, for all I care. You're just trolling and derailing the thread. Goodbye.
You sent me a link of a news article written by John Shammas, in which he left no scientific citations, a wikedpia link (really Wikipedia? The sources they listed were junk and lead me no where) and some random google pics... I'm degrading the conversation?
Who are you to tell someone that their reason for being suicidal is silly? If the person is genuinely depressed, for any reason, there is no reason to tell them they're silly. Not feeling comfortable in your skin, whether it be for gender or any other reasons, can lead to self esteem issues. Self esteem issues, when they get really bad, can lead to pretty bad depression. That level of depression can lead to suicidal thoughts. Add some bullying for being different in there and you have yourself a real recipe for disaster. Until you've been in such a low place because of body image and self esteem problems, you have no place to talk.
Sometimes they can't without help. For those who's self esteem issues derive from others' hate, the ideas can be so engrained in them that they cannot be overcome without some kind of positive influence working to reshape their psyche.
What's the alternative? That they're supernatural?
Yes, those are natural things. How are you defining "natural"?
Anything within this realm, the natural world (physical realm) IS natural. There are different variations that could be, subjectivley, considered natural or unatural within a moral or social norm but when speaking overall the only thing "unatural" is metaphysical.
Yes to all of those. As, again, they all occur in nature. Natural doesn't mean good or bad, doesn't mean positive or negative, doesn't mean moral or amoral, doesn't mean normal or abnormal. It just means occurs in nature.
Probably by the gender they identify with, like the rest of us.
What if I identify as a helicopter? I'm actually offended at your vague generalization!!!
If you can show how helicopter is a clinical body dysphoria and why it occurs in the brain, I'll be happy to call you a helicopter.
I don't assign myself to your cis gender generalizing definitions!
Body dysphoria isn't limited to a discussion of gender at all, let alone CIS gender or gender binaries. But it has to be backed up by some clinical science. There's a handful of Tumblr kids and Reddit kids I don't know why people give so much attention to using dysphoria as a substitute for a groan-worthy "soul of a [blank]." But neither they nor the edgelords intent on being the anti-snowflakes (and man they all act the same) bother to do the actual research into clinical dysphoria and why it exists and how it applies to real psychology.
Why are you so intent on shaming me and my ability to be a helicopter?!
