Who rules the world Jesus (a Christianity-god) or Krishna (a Hinduism-god)???!!!

[URAVIP2ME]

Hell is conflated to mean eternal torment. In actuality it means lack of existence and/or utter destruction.

Yes, religious-myth hell is taught at eternal torture.
There is No conscious life in biblical hell ( temporary grave ) - John 11:12-14; Ecclesiastes 9:5; Psalms 115:17; Psalms 146:4
'utter destruction' comes from the word 'Gehenna '. Gehenna ( often translated in English as hellfire ) was a garbage pit where things were destroyed forever.
So ' Gehenna ' ( Not the grave aka biblical hell ) is a fitting word for the wicked being destroyed forever - Psalms 92:7
Whereas those in biblical hell will be resurrected out of the Bible's temporary grave - Acts of the Apostles 24:15

 

[psychoslice]

According to Scripture, Satan is the god (ruler) of this world of badness - 2 Corinthians 4:4. Scripture gives Satan the credit for earth's woes - Revelation 12:12; Psalms 37:10-11

Do we really need to blame old Satan for our own stupidity ?.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Yes, religious-myth hell is taught at eternal torture.
There is No conscious life in biblical hell ( temporary grave ) - John 11:12-14; Ecclesiastes 9:5; Psalms 115:17; Psalms 146:4
'utter destruction' comes from the word 'Gehenna '. Gehenna ( often translated in English as hellfire ) was a garbage pit where things were destroyed forever.
So ' Gehenna ' ( Not the grave aka biblical hell ) is a fitting word for the wicked being destroyed forever - Psalms 92:7
Whereas those in biblical hell will be resurrected out of the Bible's temporary grave - Acts of the Apostles 24:15

You do speak of two separate things. As the resurrection is a new life, and hell is destruction.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

According to Scripture, Satan is the god (ruler) of this world of badness - 2 Corinthians 4:4. Scripture gives Satan the credit for earth's woes - Revelation 12:12; Psalms 37:10-11

We are to be given salvation by a deity who can't even keep one rock away from the devil?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Only Allah swt rules the world. Jesus is His servant.

When Allah raised up His servant(Jesus PBUH). (Acts 3:26)

 

[LuisDantas]

@Servant_of_the_One1 , what do you think of the existence of other beliefs beyond Islam?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

@Servant_of_the_One1 , what do you think of the existence of other beliefs beyond Islam?

it exist

but i dont deem them to be truth

 

[LuisDantas]

How do you explain their existence? Is it true that Muslims believe all people to be actually born Muslim?

 

[atanu]

it exist

but i dont deem them to be truth

So, you know the truth?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

So, you know the truth?

Yes i know

But what i know is unrecognized by others

 

[LuisDantas]

Don't you find that strange?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

How do you explain their existence? Is it true that Muslims believe all people to be actually born Muslim?

Not really born as muslim doing salaat and fasting.

We are born with an innate inclination of God's Oneness.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Don't you find that strange?

No, for example u are atheist. U believe nothing exist while u dont have evidence.

Can u see through the eyes of a dying person?

What i perceive as truth is challenged by others. This is normal, and already mentioned in quran.

 

[YmirGF]

No, for example u are atheist. U believe nothing exist while u dont have evidence.

Aside from countless scientific studies on countless topics. No, no evidence at all. Zip. Zero. Notta.

Can u see through the eyes of a dying person?

Can you? You are welcome to pretend that you can, but you really have no idea if the truth is to be told.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Aside from countless scientific studies on countless topics. No, no evidence at all. Zip. Zero. Notta.

Can you? You are welcome to pretend that you can, but you really have no idea if the truth is to be told.

Still science didnt solve death. Maybe science cannot solve that all


They cant see whats beyond death, they cant stop death.
Its not reliable source.

 

[LuisDantas]

No, for example u are atheist.

True.

U believe nothing exist while u dont have evidence.

That is skepticism, and in a somewhat crude form. Related to atheism, but not in a particularly close way. People do not have to be skeptics to be atheists,nor vice-versa.

I believe in the existence of plenty of things, not all of them I have some evidence for. I am somewhat skeptic, I guess.

Being an atheist is fairly unrelated. It just happens that I see no need to assume the existence of any deities.

Can u see through the eyes of a dying person?

No. Are you implying I would be a believer in some deity if I could? Or perhaps that I should fear learning too late that I am doomed to a painful afterlife?

I don't think either makes a lot of sense, personally. For starters, that would imply that God is not particularly wise even by human standards.

What i perceive as truth is challenged by others. This is normal, and already mentioned in quran.

Yes, Quran believers should expect skepticism from others. That much is clear.

 

[LuisDantas]

Still science didnt solve death. Maybe science cannot solve that all

And that would be a reason to believe in some deity?

Really?

Honestly, I don't see how that would follow.

They cant see whats beyond death, they cant stop death.

Death is a certainty for us all. How that would connect to science, belief in the existence in God or even to religion, I don't know.

I suppose religion often deals with the questions of purpose that death presents us, but I don't think that is quite what you mean.

Its not reliable source.

Source for what?

 

[YmirGF]

Still science didnt solve death. Maybe science cannot solve that all


They cant see whats beyond death, they cant stop death.
Its not reliable source.

I wasn't aware that death was a problem that needed solving. Religion hasn't been particularly good on that one either. Just sayin'....

And to say science cannot stop death, while technically true, ignores the fact that science has already lengthened the life of the average human by about 20-30%. That''s nothing to sneeze at.

By the reasoning you have shown, your religion isn't particularly reliable either.

"Miss Goose, meet Mr. Gander!"

 

[Segev Moran]

I do not appreciate you equating my Faith with a mere joke. You will find that I will not regard what you deem to be of the utmost importance for all existence as a joke or of little consequence.

You know next to nothing about or my Faith or GOD evidently. But I will happily show you to the extent of my lowly ability if you but refrain from the needless insults based in assumption and pride.

Thank you kindly.

Peace

Why would you assume i am making a joke out of your belief?
This joke actually is laughing at atheists....
I Just made the point that we take things differently... Atheists, just need more proof...
What more, I've never stated any religious or reference to what faith i refer to, so why would you assume i was talking about yours?

You can feel free to laugh on science BTW.. i couldn't care less.. because no matter how hard you can laugh about science.. the fact remains that its true..
So i fail to understand your need to be insulted or angry with some humor..
Would you be so kind and explain me what made you so insulted?

 

[Segev Moran]

Good questions.

I do not wish to shine light on myself. If you would like I can pm you a copy of an explanation that I wrote to an individual a couple of weeks ago I guess. I don't think all here are interested in my personal happenings, and I'm not too keen on being a focus of anything.

What happened to me, though partially, I think, because of my fall, inability to rise by my own formidable internal strength- realization of such after excessive strife, and sincere hope in a help from a beneficent outside source, actually happened at a later date, and was instantaneous, without my thought or doing whatsoever at that time, and was wholly beneficial to me. Having utterly no negative effect whatsoever. Also showing, concluding, and putting all things to rest(pertaining to me at that time).

Please do not take offence as I proclaim no name but the One Creator GOD as the source of my help in peril, though Christ indeed is wholly of GOD. There is no my god or your god. There is only GOD.

Peace friend.

I Would appreciate you PMing me your article..
But please be open to questions and skepticism? All in private of course!