Who rules the world Jesus (a Christianity-god) or Krishna (a Hinduism-god)???!!!

[idea]

That far from my claim (Or any other Atheist for that matter)..
My claim is it is not probable that GOD exists, and based on our current knowledge, there is ZERO reason to believe it does.
If anyone, somewhere in the universe, will provide proof (No... not scriptures!!!!!) , there will be much atheists I assure you.

I Can't claim that I know GOD doesn't exist!.. i only say I don't know that it does so I'm not pretending to know (Like some people i know )

Many people (perhaps even most) have had spiritual experiences (not just scriptures) that cause them to hold the beliefs that they do. I have certainly been guided and helped in my life by a higher power in real, tangible ways. I feel sorry for those who have chosen to live without God, but know we are beings with free will and respect everyone's ability to choose their own paths for themselves.

 

[Segev Moran]

Many people (perhaps even most) have had spiritual experiences (not just scriptures) that cause them to hold the beliefs that they do. I have certainly been guided and helped in my life by a higher power in real, tangible ways. I feel sorry for those who have chosen to live without God, but know we are beings with free will and respect everyone's ability to choose their own paths for themselves.

Can you give me one example that you have been guided and helped?

 

[Jainarayan]

I Don't know why, but it seems that a theist, when facing the question of evidence.. always go to the scriptures...

The question is flawed from the gecko (pun on get-go), because matters of faith are just that... matters of faith. One cannot prove or disprove God.

 

[Jainarayan]

The Christ teachings and example are indeed aligned with the teachings and example in the bhagavad gita.

There's really very little in common between Christ's teachings and Krishna's. The commonality is devotion to God. Krishna goes on to explain and demonstrate who and what God is, as well as the soul's (ātma) relationship to God). The thrust of the Bhagavad Gītā is karma and dharma, proper and rightful action. Arjuna, to whom Krishna is speaking is a warrior who has developed a remorse, fear and uncertainty about fighting in the coming war, because he will have to kill his relatives fighting on the other side. Krishna chastises Arjuna for shirking his responsibility and duty as a warrior, and exhorts him to fight.

 

[popsthebuilder]

There's really very little in common between Christ's teachings and Krishna's. The commonality is devotion to God. Krishna goes on to explain and demonstrate who and what God is, as well as the soul's (ātma) relationship to God). The thrust of the Bhagavad Gītā is karma and dharma, proper and rightful action. Arjuna, to whom Krishna is speaking is a warrior who has developed a remorse, fear and uncertainty about fighting in the coming war, because he will have to kill his relatives fighting on the other side. Krishna chastises Arjuna for shirking his responsibility and duty as a warrior, and exhorts him to fight.

All different ways to convey the same thing.

The bible speaks of the golden rule, the direction of man under GOD, and righteous living. Very similar.

 

[Segev Moran]

The question is flawed from the gecko (pun on get-go), because matters of faith are just that... matters of faith. One cannot prove or disprove God.

I Agree...
So no claim (no matter of which religion) should never be stated as true!
It can be declared as a subjective belief..
As something that is nice to believe in...

If religious people would have educated their kids that GOD is a matter or perspective (Like i do btw), and tell them its up to them to decide if GOD is real or not...
If religious people will not tell their kids that they are born in sin and need to repent
if religious people will not tell their kids that they HAVE TO be good or else...
i assume the number of theist in the world will be a lot smaller.

I'm not saying GOD doesn't exist...
I'm saying there is no reason to believe it until proven otherwise let alone to declare that anyone who disbelieves it is doomed to Hell or Naraka or Azazel or Whatever dark and intimidating place human invented to rule other peoples thoughts.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I Agree...
So no claim (no matter of which religion) should never be stated as true!
It can be declared as a subjective belief..
As something that is nice to believe in...

If religious people would have educated their kids that GOD is a matter or perspective (Like i do btw), and tell them its up to them to decide if GOD is real or not...
If religious people will not tell their kids that they are born in sin and need to repent
if religious people will not tell their kids that they HAVE TO be good or else...
i assume the number of theist in the world will be a lot smaller.

I'm not saying GOD doesn't exist...
I'm saying there is no reason to believe it until proven otherwise let alone to declare that anyone who disbelieves it is doomed to Hell or Naraka or Azazel or Whatever dark and intimidating place human invented to rule other peoples thoughts.

Hell is conflated to mean eternal torment. In actuality it means lack of existence and/or utter destruction.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Can you give me one example that you have been guided and helped?

I can

 

[LuisDantas]

All different ways to convey the same thing.

The bible speaks of the golden rule, the direction of man under GOD, and righteous living. Very similar.

By the time you find those doctrines similar, you have taken charge of the interpretation to such an extent that you might as well use neither.

 

[popsthebuilder]

By the time you find those doctrines similar, you have taken charge of the interpretation to such an extent that you might as well use neither.

Not at all. It is easy to arrive at such with unbiased reading and lack of preconceptions.

Additionally; one book is great, but when all of them coincide and verify one another it is much better.

How you can honestly conclude that said verification is equal to nullification is beyond me.

Peace

 

[LuisDantas]

Not in this world.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Not in this world.

What is not in this world?

 

[Segev Moran]

I can

Please do

 

[popsthebuilder]

Please do

A singular example of my being helped is when I was initially given Faith. I was in an exponentially negative, loathsome state at all times, burdened heavily with little will but to cause pain and few wishes but death.

Long story short; I eventually swallowed my pride and realized I couldn't climb out of the grave I had been digging. I recall sincerely praying to whatever GOD was, and in he midst of my utter defeat, coming out with an inkling of hope. When I was helped, all this burden, anger, hate, and despair left me all at once. Many other things happened as well. But you simply asked for an example. I hope that suffices.

Humbly,

Peace

 

[psychoslice]

I don't believe any of them rule the world, but if I had to pick, it would have to be the beautiful Krishna.

 

[Segev Moran]

A singular example of my being helped is when I was initially given Faith. I was in an exponentially negative, loathsome state at all times, burdened heavily with little will but to cause pain and few wishes but death.

Long story short; I eventually swallowed my pride and realized I couldn't climb out of the grave I had been digging. I recall sincerely praying to whatever GOD was, and in he midst of my utter defeat, coming out with an inkling of hope. When I was helped, all this burden, anger, hate, and despair left me all at once. Many other things happened as well. But you simply asked for an example. I hope that suffices.

Humbly,

Peace

First of all I'm glad to here you managed to come through and recover from your hard state...
But are you sure it was GOD?
Which GOD was it?
How do you know for a FACT that it was GOD?

Let me ask you this,
What changed? after you prayed... how did things change?
Did everything miraculously came a solution? or did you change the way you did things?
Did you start acting to change you state?

When I am in a deep trouble, I Don't pray... I Act!
And when my actions are solving things and help me recover and stand back on my feet, I'm not giving all the credit to GOD... it was me! it was my Family, it was friends, and strangers who helped my out.. not GOD...

People should stop making themselves so "Helpless" that only GOD can help.. they should understand they can actually do things and change their lives ON THEIR OWN!!!!! GOD is not necessary for this.

You can say you have your inner "GOD" that helped you recover and gave you a wake call to start and work to solve your problems.. but THE GOD didn't solve them for you... it was all YOU! you should be proud of your SELF.. not proud of GOD!

 

[Segev Moran]

A singular example of my being helped is when I was initially given Faith. I was in an exponentially negative, loathsome state at all times, burdened heavily with little will but to cause pain and few wishes but death.

Long story short; I eventually swallowed my pride and realized I couldn't climb out of the grave I had been digging. I recall sincerely praying to whatever GOD was, and in he midst of my utter defeat, coming out with an inkling of hope. When I was helped, all this burden, anger, hate, and despair left me all at once. Many other things happened as well. But you simply asked for an example. I hope that suffices.

Humbly,

Peace

Do you know that joke about GOD and the parking lot?

A man looks for a free parking spot in a very busy street... after an hour he says, GOD, I swear, if you'll help me find a parking spot, i will worship and love you from this day on..
the second he finished praying, the car right next to him leaves the parking and he quickly gets in and parks the car.
Then the man looks at the sky and says, "Never mind GOD, I got it covered already."

I Love this joke.. But reality is... The man finds the parking lot after waiting for an hour... then when he finally finds the parking lot, people tell him it was GOD who helped him!

No.. it wasn't GOD, it was the man who patiently waited for a parking spot.

 

[popsthebuilder]

First of all I'm glad to here you managed to come through and recover from your hard state...
But are you sure it was GOD?
Which GOD was it?
How do you know for a FACT that it was GOD?

Let me ask you this,
What changed? after you prayed... how did things change?
Did everything miraculously came a solution? or did you change the way you did things?
Did you start acting to change you state?

When I am in a deep trouble, I Don't pray... I Act!
And when my actions are solving things and help me recover and stand back on my feet, I'm not giving all the credit to GOD... it was me! it was my Family, it was friends, and strangers who helped my out.. not GOD...

People should stop making themselves so "Helpless" that only GOD can help.. they should understand they can actually do things and change their lives ON THEIR OWN!!!!! GOD is not necessary for this.

You can say you have your inner "GOD" that helped you recover and gave you a wake call to start and work to solve your problems.. but THE GOD didn't solve them for you... it was all YOU! you should be proud of your SELF.. not proud of GOD!

Good questions.

I do not wish to shine light on myself. If you would like I can pm you a copy of an explanation that I wrote to an individual a couple of weeks ago I guess. I don't think all here are interested in my personal happenings, and I'm not too keen on being a focus of anything.

What happened to me, though partially, I think, because of my fall, inability to rise by my own formidable internal strength- realization of such after excessive strife, and sincere hope in a help from a beneficent outside source, actually happened at a later date, and was instantaneous, without my thought or doing whatsoever at that time, and was wholly beneficial to me. Having utterly no negative effect whatsoever. Also showing, concluding, and putting all things to rest(pertaining to me at that time).

Please do not take offence as I proclaim no name but the One Creator GOD as the source of my help in peril, though Christ indeed is wholly of GOD. There is no my god or your god. There is only GOD.

Peace friend.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Do you know that joke about GOD and the parking lot?

A man looks for a free parking spot in a very busy street... after an hour he says, GOD, I swear, if you'll help me find a parking spot, i will worship and love you from this day on..
the second he finished praying, the car right next to him leaves the parking and he quickly gets in and parks the car.
Then the man looks at the sky and says, "Never mind GOD, I got it covered already."

I Love this joke.. But reality is... The man finds the parking lot after waiting for an hour... then when he finally finds the parking lot, people tell him it was GOD who helped him!

No.. it wasn't GOD, it was the man who patiently waited for a parking spot.

I do not appreciate you equating my Faith with a mere joke. You will find that I will not regard what you deem to be of the utmost importance for all existence as a joke or of little consequence.

You know next to nothing about or my Faith or GOD evidently. But I will happily show you to the extent of my lowly ability if you but refrain from the needless insults based in assumption and pride.

Thank you kindly.

Peace

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I don't believe any of them rule the world, ................................

According to Scripture, Satan is the god (ruler) of this world of badness - 2 Corinthians 4:4. Scripture gives Satan the credit for earth's woes - Revelation 12:12; Psalms 37:10-11