Why I've begun to fear Trump

[Nous]

There are only two Republicans candidates that have enough voter support to be the nominee, and that would be Trump or Cruz. Now I believe that if either one wins the nomination the supporters of the other will support the nominee. I say this because both of them have basically the same ideas.

Where there is a problem is between Hillary and Sanders. They have basically different ideas, are Bernie supporters going to support Hillary?

I’m pretty sure that Sanders supporters will not defect to Trump if Sanders is not the nominee.

In an election in which the Republican establishment is saying “Don’t vote for Trump!!!,” I doubt he will be elected.

 

[psychoslice]

I just hope that America doesn't vote this madman in, for he will cause the world misery, bringing us into wars that we want no part of.

 

[esmith]

I’m pretty sure that Sanders supporters will not defect to Trump if Sanders is not the nominee.

In an election in which the Republican establishment is saying “Don’t vote for Trump!!!,” I doubt he will be elected.

Neither do I think Sanders supporters would vote for a Republican, but they might stay home like some Republicans did during the 2008-2012 elections. As far as the Republican "establishment" carrying this idea into the general elections is laughable, I guarantee you they will support any Republican over any Democrat, especially the Hillary.

 

[esmith]

I just hope that America doesn't vote this madman in, for he will cause the world misery, bringing us into wars that we want no part of.

Well you better not vote for the Hillary. Hillary is the current Hawk among all candidates.

 

[David1967]

I'm watching the news now. Protesters shut down the Trump rally in Chicago. Apparently the citizens who support him are being denied the privilege of seeing their candidate. What a shame. And from the footage of some getting punched in the face by thugs its the Trump supporters who have reason to fear for their safety. Whether or not people like a candidate or not they still have every right to have a rally in support of that person without fear of harm. This is shameful. If they don't like him, don't vote for him. It's that simple.

 

[psychoslice]

Well you better not vote for the Hillary. Hillary is the current Hawk among all candidates.

Sadly I can't vote as I am an Australian, but whatever America does we seem to be sucked into their stupidity.

 

[esmith]

I'm watching the news now. Protesters shut down the Trump rally in Chicago. Apparently the citizens who support him are being denied the privilege of seeing their candidate. What a shame. And from the footage of some getting punched in the face by thugs its the Trump supporters who have reason to fear for their safety. Whether or not people like a candidate or not they still have every right to have a rally in support of that person without fear of harm. This is shameful. If they don't like him, don't vote for him. It's that simple.

Yeah, I thought this was the United States, but I guess there are those who do not think so.

 

[David1967]

Yeah, I thought this was the United States, but I guess there are those who do not think so.

Unfortunately it seems that freedom of speech is only for those who speak as they approve. There are many who I don't agree with but I will always defend their right to have their say.

 

[Revoltingest]

Unfortunately it seems that freedom of speech is only for those who speak as they approve. There are many who I don't agree with but I will always defend their right to have their say.

Bill Ayers was there to protest against Trump's rally.
Some of what Wikipedia says about him.....

William Charles "Bill" Ayers (born December 26, 1944)[1] is an American terrorist and a former leader in the counterculturemovement who opposed U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. He is known for his 1960s radical activism as well as his current work in education reform, curriculum, and instruction. In 1969 he co-founded the Weather Underground, a self-described communistrevolutionary group with the intent to overthrow imperialism,[2] that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings (including police stations, the U.S. Capitol Building, and the Pentagon) during the 1960s and 1970s in response to U.S. involvement in theVietnam War.

He is a retired professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, formerly holding the titles of Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar.[3] During the 2008 U.S. Presidential campaign, a controversy arose over his contacts with candidate Barack Obama.

 

[David1967]

Bill Ayers was there to protest against Trump's rally.
Some of what Wikipedia says about him.....

William Charles "Bill" Ayers (born December 26, 1944)[1] is an American terrorist and a former leader in the counterculturemovement who opposed U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. He is known for his 1960s radical activism as well as his current work in education reform, curriculum, and instruction. In 1969 he co-founded the Weather Underground, a self-described communistrevolutionary group with the intent to overthrow imperialism,[2] that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings (including police stations, the U.S. Capitol Building, and the Pentagon) during the 1960s and 1970s in response to U.S. involvement in theVietnam War.

He is a retired professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, formerly holding the titles of Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar.[3] During the 2008 U.S. Presidential campaign, a controversy arose over his contacts with candidate Barack Obama.

Yes, unfortunately I am familiar with Bill Ayers. If he is against someone they can't be all bad.

 

[Nous]

Neither do I think Sanders supporters would vote for a Republican, but they might stay home like some Republicans did during the 2008-2012 elections.

You’re certainly wrong to believe that Sanders supporters are as dumb and childish as the average Republican voter.

As far as the Republican "establishment" carrying this idea into the general elections is laughable

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...dacy-widens/FUtKwZiN6fnB70rq1hwh7L/story.html

This Boston Globe article, published the day before Romney’s speech in Utah, notes some of the prominent Republicans who “disavow the Trump brand”. Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker is among the Republican officeholders who have said they would not support Trump. Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska publicly mentioned starting a new political party if Trump gets the nomination.

Importantly, the article relates some of the reasons that Republicans oppose Trump--that is, some of the other reasons than the fundamental belief that he cannot win the election (cannot entice independents). Idaho Senator James Risch is quoted: “I’ve watched him demean races, religions, handicapped people. This is not my party. This is not what I’ve believed in for the last 50 years.” Rick Wilson, a “Republican strategist in Florida,” said, “The Trump brand is going to poison the image of Republicans and conservatives for generations to come. We’re going to, as a political party, end up selling our souls to a narcissistic lunatic.” Similarly, the article informs us that Republican party leaders have expressed concern about “the damage his divisive rhetoric about immigrants and Muslims has inflicted on the party”. It is undeniably true that Trump seems to be trying to alienate every segment of society except fat old white men.

The article notes ads taken out by Club for Growth citing bankruptcies by Trump companies, as well as the ads of two “anti-Trump super PACs . . .that target Trump’s real estate program, Trump University, currently the subject of a lawsuit filed by former students accusing it of fraud. One ad features people who claim they were duped by Trump’s program, while another calls it a ‘scam.’” And finally the article points out that Romney has “raised questions about Trump’s taxes, calling on him to release tax returns soon and suggesting they contained a ‘bombshell.’”

I like Romney. I had no complaints when he was governor of Massachusetts--indeed, I thought he was more capable than several other governors the state has had recently. If the 2016 race were between Romney and Clinton, I would probably vote for Romney. And I appreciate his honesty in this election. But given the circumstances, I am delighted that Republican electorate is so willing to use the nuclear option on their own party.

 

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

I just hope that America doesn't vote this madman in, for he will cause the world misery, bringing us into wars that we want no part of.

Possibly but he also possibly only one that can stop them
Don't worry we blow ourselves up is left only your religion

 

[Twilight Hue]

So, "the ends justifies the means"? Not in my book.

But I noticed that you didn't address my question, so let me repeat it just for you: If he made racist comments about you, made religiously bigoted statements against your religion, and then threatened to punch you, would you still vote for him? Or is just fine for him to do this against others but not against you and yours?

I keep thinking of Obama's first run in himself with allegations of hatred during his presidential bid.

People seem to forget his vocal and flamboyant Church pastor. So much so that he distanced himself from the issue. Of course it's been forgotten since over the course of his tenure as president.

I suspect there is some similarity here along lines of hatred and racism directed towards particular candidates, but I suppose it's open to one's interpretation of such matters.

 

[psychoslice]

Possibly but he also possibly only one that can stop them
Don't worry we blow ourselves up is left only your religion

Ha, I have no religion, so I'm Ok there.

 

[David1967]

Concerning the protesters at the Trump rallies.One is going on now in Kansas city. It seems that their definition of practicing their first amendment right is to deny another theirs.

 

[Druac]

Free speech is alive and well...depending on the area, one group will be louder and have more support than another. The only person that shut down the rally was Trump. As they have a right to rally, the protesters have a right to protest the rally. Trump has the money...spend it on security and better organization and stop inciting violence...As you sow, so shall you reap.

 

[bluegoo300]

That's likely what I will do as well. Jill Stein would be a great president. It's just a shame that our system is such an elitist game right now.
I hope that changes someday.

Jill Stein is a great choice and I would vote for her too but I must say that she does have some radical idea's about the environment not supporting drilling, and killing of whales or anything like that but spiking trees is a little much for me I work in a medical field and that stuff can seriously hurt someone for just doing there job.

 

[metis]

I keep thinking of Obama's first run in himself with allegations of hatred during his presidential bid.

People seem to forget his vocal and flamboyant Church pastor. So much so that he distanced himself from the issue. Of course it's been forgotten since over the course of his tenure as president.

I suspect there is some similarity here along lines of hatred and racism directed towards particular candidates, but I suppose it's open to one's interpretation of such matters.

There's a difference between what a pastor, rabbi, or imam might say versus every congregant who attends services there. One minister at my wife's church was so morally despicable that she almost left it, but then realized that she was more there for the congregation, not the minister. BTW, after her church "unwelcomed" him, information came in that he was a pedophile, and he was defrocked and then prosecuted.

Trump spews hatred all the time, not once in a while-- all the time. If it were just hatred on what some people may say or do or believe, that's one thing, but when it is hatred towards people and groups of people, that's another. And, unfortunately, hatred breeds more hatred, thus polarizing the population. Many of the Republican leadership and congresspeople have even stated as such, and some have said they will not vote for him even if nominated.

Hatred is hatred, so let's not pretend that it's anything but hatred.

 

[freaknasty]

I’m pretty sure that Sanders supporters will not defect to Trump if Sanders is not the nominee.

In an election in which the Republican establishment is saying “Don’t vote for Trump!!!,” I doubt he will be elected.

Depends on what is motivating that individual to vote. If i thought that it was a direct election, and my support was behind sanders because of my perception of him being non-establishment, then trump would be my next choice.

I really dont think it is that far-fetched.

 

[Baladas]

"Unfortunately" the protesters have the right to protest.
Do they have the right to totally silence other people? No.
However, they do have the right to protest and they should not be silenced either.
I am getting pretty tired of this double-standard.

Why do you think that even hate groups like WBC have been allowed to do despicable things like picket the funerals of service members or murder victims?

Almost anyone will agree with what Westbororo does is horrible and wrong.
People are not as united on this issue.
Those who want to stand against Trump because they view him as a divisive, hate-mongering demagogue have the right to protest him.

His supporters have an equal right to be there - not more of a right.
Not unless the protesters are obviously being violent, intimidating or haven't paid to be there.