Ingledsva
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Ingledsva said:He tells us he is the MESSIAH - Sanctified - and SENT - by GOD.
You also seem to have missed something in those sentences from Jesus -
He corrects them - and says SON of God.
The problem is, they wanted to stone him for saying he was the Son of God, too.
John 19:7
But Pilate answered, “You take him and crucify him. As for me, I find no basis for a charge against him.”
7 The Jewish leaders insisted, “We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God.”
So according to Jewish law, to even call yourself the Son of God, you are worthy of death.
ING - First this is a different text then that which we were discussing.
However - The LATER CHRISTIAN that wrote it - had no idea what he was talking about!
Ask the Jewish believers on this site if they are the Sons of God.
"The Israelites are addressed as "the children of the Lord your God" (Deut. xiv. 1). When Israel was young, he was called from Egypt to be God's son (Hosea xi. 1). The Israelites are designated also "the children of the living God" (ib. ii. 1 [R.V. i. 10]; comp. Jer. iii. 4). They are addressed as "backsliding children" (Jer. iii. 14) that might and should call God their father (ib. iii. 19). Deut. xxxii. 5, though the text is corrupt, seems to indicate that through perverseness Israel has forfeited this privilege. Isaiah, also, apostrophizes the Israelites as "children [of God] that are corrupters," though God has reared them (Isa. i. 4). As a man chastises his son, so does God chastise Israel (Deut. viii. 5); and like a father pities his children, so does God show pity." Jewish Encyclopedia
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the sons/children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
2 Sam 7:14 I shall be a father to him, and he shall be a son to Me. If He takes iniquity upon Himself, then I will chasten him with a rod of men, and with strokes of the sons of men.
Psalm 2:7 I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.
See I Chronicles 22:7-11
Descendants of Seth, were called "sons of God" (Job 1:6; 2:1; Psalm 88:7; Wisdom 2:13; etc.).
Exo 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
EDIT - Forgot to add -
Psa 82:1 A Psalm of Asaph: The ELOHIYM/gods/MAGISTRATES/Judges stand in the assembly of the mighty/powerful, among the magistrates to judge/execute.
Psa 82:2 For how long will you judge unjustly, and by reason of, advance the wicked?
Psa 82:3 Defend the weak and bereaved, needy and destitute; be righteous!
Psa 82:4 Deliver the weak and destitute from the hand of the wicked.
Psa 82:5 Of a truth, they observe and don't understand. In misery they walk. Rotten is the whole foundation.
Psa 82:6 I said Elohiym/Judges thou are; and sons elevated above all others!
Psa 82:7 Nevertheless as human beings, shall die, and of a certainty, as all leaders fall.
Psa 82:8 Arise o Elohiym/Judges, execute judgment on the land/nation; for you shall inherit the whole nation/people/land.
I think that settles the matter!
So calling yourself a "special human" is speaking blasphemy? Based on what law? Not the Jewish law. But guess what, calling yourself God..equal to God, or God's Son in the way that Jesus said it, THAT would have been blasphemy, had it not been the truth.Ingledsva said:And as I have shown over-and-over, from the Bible, ALL of the people of Israel are Sons of God.
Jesus is claiming to be the Special/Singular awaited Son of God - The Messiah - a special human from the Line of David.
No - claiming without Temple confirmation, to be the awaited Messiah - is (in their eyes.)
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