Is masturbation wrong?

[Ben Masada]

No idea. Kinda what this thread is about. I remember back in the younger days, I attended this all-male church sleepover thing. The thing the authorities were ultimately getting at was that it was impossible to not think of a woman when masturbating, and Jesus said that to look at a woman in lust was adultery of the heart and a sin. Why? I don't know.

First, what Jesus did was to build a fence around the commandment not to commit adultery in order to prevent the commandment from being broken. But simply to look at a woman in lust is not a sin. Sin resides in the action and not in the imagination. The Logic is that if one avoids the imagination, to break the commandment becomes more remote.

Second, masturbation becomes wrong when it is taken into excess. Wrong physically; and spiritually, because of the addiction. It is terribly addicting. This is for single people. If one is married, it becomes wrong also socially because it means cheating on the married companion. And this applies to both, male and female.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

You are perverting the use of the word 'appetite' to suit your own revolting agenda..sexual activity does not by necessity lead to sexual depravity...repression does....HOWEVER.

In my view sexual repression leads not only to sexual depravity, but mental instability. FACT- Most of the people in the 20th century we consider detestable and inhuman (Adolf Hitler, Marshall Applewhite, Jim Jones, etc.) repressed their sexuality.

 

[Pegg]

You are perverting the use of the word 'appetite' to suit your own revolting agenda..sexual activity does not by necessity lead to sexual depravity...repression does....HOWEVER.

and reducing speed limits on roads does not cause everyone to slow down, but it does reduce accidents

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

and reducing speed limits on roads does not cause everyone to slow down, but it does reduce accidents

Interesting analogy but hardly relevant.

As human sexuality is very complex and your analogy far too simplistic to have any real bearing.

I take issue with the idea that a sexually active person is more likely to be a pedophile or rapist or whatver than someone who is not.

 

[Pegg]

In my view sexual repression leads not only to sexual depravity, but mental instability. FACT- Most of the people in the 20th century we consider detestable and inhuman (Adolf Hitler, Marshall Applewhite, Jim Jones, etc.) repressed their sexuality.

adolf hitler had a known mistress and jim jones had sex with everthing that moved...they didnt repress their sexual appetite at all

 

[Rainbow Mage]

adolf hitler had a known mistress and jim jones had sex with everthing that moved...they didnt repress their sexual appetite at all

Adolf Hitler was a repressed homosexual, it's a well known fact. Also, there was a time that Jim Jones was very sexually repressed, and in my mind, this can warp a person's psyche. Sexual repression may be able to be religiously justified, but does it explain natural bodily things like hormones being released and their effect if they're not released?

 

[Pegg]

Interesting analogy but hardly relevant.

As human sexuality is very complex and your analogy far too simplistic to have any real bearing.

I take issue with the idea that a sexually active person is more likely to be a pedophile or rapist or whatver than someone who is not.

i didnt say that nor was it my point

my point is that everything needs to have limits otherwise we have a situation where anything goes

that is why God put limits on sexual activity

 

[Revoltingest]

Warning!
Do not conflate this thread with the "Post Your Pic" thread.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

i didnt say that nor was it my point

my point is that everything needs to have limits otherwise we have a situation where anything goes

that is why God put limits on sexual activity

What 'limits' should there be?

Briefly outline why they should be so.

Going to bed (to sleep) so I will very quickly answer your reply then go...

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

Warning!
Do not conflate this thread with the "Post Your Pic" thread.

Hehe...brace yourselves...

 

[Pegg]

Adolf Hitler was a repressed homosexual, it's a well known fact. Also, there was a time that Jim Jones was very sexually repressed, and in my mind, this can warp a person's psyche. Sexual repression may be able to be religiously justified, but does it explain natural bodily things like hormones being released and their effect if they're not released?

well i hate to be the one to point this out, but the release of hormones is all about reproduction

perhaps this explains why God wants the man and woman together and encourages such relationships

 

[Pegg]

What 'limits' should there be?

Briefly outline why they should be so.

Going to bed (to sleep) so I will very quickly answer your reply then go...

imo, whatever God tells us is appropriate is appropriate, whatever he tells us is inappropriate is inappropriate.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

well i hate to be the one to point this out, but the release of hormones is all about reproduction

perhaps this explains why God wants the man and woman together and encourages such relationships

The release of hormones is not merely about reproduction in males. If these hormones aren't released in men it makes them aggressive and moody because of testosterone build up.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

imo, whatever God tells us is appropriate is appropriate, whatever he tells us is inappropriate is inappropriate.

You base this on a literal interpretation of scripture and the assumption that science cannot tell us anything further about how our bodies function?

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

imo, whatever God tells us is appropriate is appropriate, whatever he tells us is inappropriate is inappropriate.

Thats not your opinion though is it?

Thats God's opinion..or more accurately your perceived interpretation of his opinion

Sorry but that is worthless to me and a cop out.

Night night,

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

You base this on a literal interpretation of scripture and the assumption that science cannot tell us anything further about how our bodies function?

Night Proud...xxx

 

[Pegg]

The release of hormones is not merely about reproduction in males. If these hormones aren't released in men it makes them aggressive and moody because of testosterone build up.

i was watching a doco on a study recently which showed that after a man becomes a father and is actively involved in his childs upbringing, his testosterone levels come down and different areas' of his brain begin to function. The researchers said this proves that it is not only women who are affected biologically by childbirth...men also go thru physical changes after having children.

 

[Ben Masada]

If masturbation is wrong? Yes and no. Now, think and make up your mind.

 

[Twilight Hue]

well i hate to be the one to point this out, but the release of hormones is all about reproduction

That is only a partial truth. There is that aspect of pleasure involved as well which naturally occurs as much as the release of hormones. It's just not quite that sterile.

 

[mohammed_beiruti]

Explain.

abstinence may solve the issue