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Errors in the theory of evolution

OutOfTime

Active Member
I go to the root of it...the creator of the theory, Charles Darwin.

Often to understand someone's agenda, you have to look at who the person is associated with. Who was Darwin associated with? (freemasons)

Can't help thinking that it's a bit of a hidden agenda. Also the family experiments by Darwin suggest something more sinister and although I can't cover it enough over here...the basic point is that his theory was all about eugenics and population control.
 

Women_Of_Reason

Mystery Lover
I'm curious about something, Lawrence. How do you explain the paleontological evidence?

And I`m curious about something else...

Why is the theory of evolution the only theory that you are having problem with?

Why don't you say that Einstein theory of general relativity if a hoax?

Did you know that because of general relativity we don't need God anymore to explain how the earth was created?

General relativity tells us that it can explain, not only the creation of the earth, not only the creation of the solar system... But it tells us how entire galaxies are formed, stars, planets and all that it encompass...

But no! You creationist are to egocentric for that. You only talk about evolution because you think that you are the centre of the universe. You cannot accept that you, the perfect image of God, are not from out of this world. You are to good for nature.
 

Renji

Well-Known Member
I'm curious about something, Lawrence. How do you explain the paleontological evidence?

As far as I know, paleotology is a "historical science" it tries to explain causes rather than conduct experiments to observe effects.
Paleontological evidences can be associated with "dating the tree of life" with the help of fossil dating.
 

Women_Of_Reason

Mystery Lover
I go to the root of it...the creator of the theory, Charles Darwin.

Often to understand someone's agenda, you have to look at who the person is associated with. Who was Darwin associated with? (freemasons)

Can't help thinking that it's a bit of a hidden agenda. Also the family experiments by Darwin suggest something more sinister and although I can't cover it enough over here...the basic point is that his theory was all about eugenics and population control.

That as nothing to do with his theory of natural selection. Eugenics is something that every farmer as always been aware of since animal domestication. Mate a good dog with another good dog and you have good chances of having good doggies. The Spartans (400 BC) used this method on human beings... It's called artificial selection.
 
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Renji

Well-Known Member
You did not answer the question, Lawrence.

I'm conducting study on paleontological evidences. However, my knowledge about this thing is not that wide( and I don't want to give an opinion on it that can lead to an error). I'm afraid I cannot give you a specific answer this time. I'm working on it.:)
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I go to the root of it...the creator of the theory, Charles Darwin.

Often to understand someone's agenda, you have to look at who the person is associated with. Who was Darwin associated with? (freemasons)

Can't help thinking that it's a bit of a hidden agenda. Also the family experiments by Darwin suggest something more sinister and although I can't cover it enough over here...the basic point is that his theory was all about eugenics and population control.

But Isaac Newton was also a freemason! That means The Theory of Gravity is also some nefarious scheme to further the diabolical Illuminati's new world order!! :eek:
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
I'm conducting study on paleontological evidences. However, my knowledge about this thing is not that wide( and I don't want to give an opinion on it that can lead to an error). I'm afraid I cannot give you a specific answer this time. I'm working on it.:)
Fair enough. Thank you.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
As far as I know, paleotology is a "historical science" it tries to explain causes rather than conduct experiments to observe effects.
Not quite. Paleontology has made a number of testable predictions that have proven to be true.

For instance, observations of fossils predicted both an old Earth and continental drift.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I go to the root of it...the creator of the theory, Charles Darwin.

Often to understand someone's agenda, you have to look at who the person is associated with. Who was Darwin associated with? (freemasons)

Can't help thinking that it's a bit of a hidden agenda. Also the family experiments by Darwin suggest something more sinister and although I can't cover it enough over here...the basic point is that his theory was all about eugenics and population control.

First I heard of it. In fact, all references I have suggest that Darwin was a practicing Christian that had a hard time accepting the consequences of revealing his findings to the world at large - and might well have failed to do so at all if Wallace's work hadn't come to his attention, basically proving that the discovery was unavoidable whether he liked it or not. If Darwin had a hidden agenda, odds are that it was to keep Species Evolution unknown.

But the main trouble is, even accepting what you say at face value, none of that matters any to the validity of the Theory of Evolution.

It makes no difference at all whether Darwin had an agenda of some sort or not. It makes no difference what his character was. It doesn't even matter whether his work can be misused for sinister eugenics applications.

The core subject matter is, species evolution is a proven fact, and it is way past time to accept that at large and deal with that fact instead of attempting to deny it. As Doppelganger and others have commented already, in some respects it is almost true that Evolution survived in spite of Darwin's ideas and shortcomings, and not out of some sort of reverence for his person.

The basic theory can be and has been corrected and revised, of course. It may sound odd, but that is to be expected of a sound theory.

Theories that have value are researched and improved upon. Ideas that have little or no quality research to support and correct them, by contrast, tend to develop into articles of faith and be forgotten by the scientific community - as happened with, say, Astrology or Spiritualism.

If that still doesn't convince you, let me remind you that there is no shortage of researchers willing to obtain some degree of fame if they disprove some significant aspect of the Theory of Evolution.

Scientists, as Darwin used to say about himself, are definitely not above the appeal of fame (and, perhaps, money). And if I know anything about the Creationist movement, I can swear that there are people out there willing to hear any researchers who claim Darwin to be wrong in any significant way.

As it happens, however, all significant shortcomings of the Theory of Evolution have been ironed out at least decades ago, arguably ever since the early genetic discoveries by Mendel.

For quite some time now, the research on the matter is not due to any kind of unsecurity about an "unproven theory". It is far more like a desire to fine-tune and improve a model that is not only quite reliable, but incredibly useful in practical aplications as well.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
But Isaac Newton was also a freemason! That means The Theory of Gravity is also some nefarious scheme to further the diabolical Illuminati's new world order!! :eek:

Actually, FH, both Newton AND the Freemasons are but pawns in the byzantine, inescrutable schemes of the Flying Spaguetti Monster. Unknown to them all, Gravity is not due to any physical laws, but an act of will of His Pastafarian Being channelled by His Nutritious Appendages for reasons we can only guess.

That's obviously why earthquakes happen; FSM must let his appendages rest once in a while.

Please keep this a secret. FSM will be very, very mad with me if he finds out that I let the word out. And I like Spaguetti, even when it comes in Divine Monster form.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Lawrence-

If you are actually studying biological science then you should know that there are no 'Laws' in any field of science other than Mathematics.

The highest authority in biology is the "theory" with the lessor authority being the "hypothesis".

Perhaps you have heard this quote : "Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution" by Theodosius Dobzhansky.

Your quote by Bounoure is horribly out of context. If you want the truth about this quote check out : Cretinism or Evilution?: More Out of Context Quotations of French Scientists

I don't have the time or inclination to debate the other standard creationist 'quotes'.

Again, if you actually studying science you will know to actually check your sources... They seem to be a bit lacking in repute.

wa:do
 

OutOfTime

Active Member
haha scientists. what cracks me up is how sure they are of complete evolution. in my bio textbooks...i constantly run by the phrase "because of/as a result of evolution...."
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
haha scientists. what cracks me up is how sure they are of complete evolution. in my bio textbooks...i constantly run by the phrase "because of/as a result of evolution...."
yeah, with 250 years of evidence its amazing that scientist would ever be sure of any natural phenomena.

wa:do
 

OutOfTime

Active Member
you can't call bones being put together as a puzzle as concete evidence. the only true evidence would be if you could see it before your eyes, and you might be able to see birds having their beaks enlarged but you can't see cavemen or cavemen becoming humans :p
 
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