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Would sharks and T Rex buried together lean toward the flood?

sooda

Veteran Member

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Show a single instance of non-avian dinosaurs preserved with modern mammals, and we'll talk.

Modern? well some animals have not changed... bees... spiders.. ants... and a horse is a horse of course of course...

And as you know most appear in the fossil record fully formed lacking history
(It's as if they were created. Imagine my surprise)
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Modern? well some animals have not changed... bees... spiders.. ants... and a horse is a horse of course of course...

And as you know most appear in the fossil record fully formed lacking history
(It's as if they were created. Imagine my surprise)

Horses have changed and the Onager is extinct.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
In any case land and sea creatures fossilized in close proximity is consistent with the flood epoch.

It could be, but the particular circumstances
would need to be examined. Land animals are
commonly washed down rivers and into
bays and estuaries; storm tides will strand
marine creatures inland.

What is most important though-and please
make an effort here- is that evidence "consistent
with" is not proof.

Your suspect is a tall black man. The victim
said it was a tall black man did it!

So far, we have consistent evidence.

Now, as it turns out later, the tall black man
is a bank president who was at a meeting
in St. Louis when the purse snatching was
in N. Omaha.

So the "consistent evidence" on one detail is
not merely insufficient, but the theory that he
did it is disproved. Impossible.

In the case of "flood" there is a huge abundance
of such disproof, but the existence of polar
ice deeply predating any possible flood is
disproof of any hypothesis that land / sea
creature fossilized near eachother "leans
toward " flood.

Of more interest here is why you persist in
your belief in "flood" and seek out things that
you think might lean somewhere. (Without
of course, studying the relevant facts to see if
it even is consistent with your hypothesis)

Why must you try to bring in more
"evidence" ( look! Our suspect wears glasses!
So did the perp!!) when the hypothesis has
been irrefutably disproved?

So, could you maybe explain what is really
going on with your endless effort to salvage
the flood hypothesis?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Modern? well some animals have not changed... bees... spiders.. ants... and a horse is a horse of course of course...

And as you know most appear in the fossil record fully formed lacking history
(It's as if they were created. Imagine my surprise)
'fully formed" is a nonsensical term and horse evolution is very well understood. We can go over that if you like.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
'fully formed" is a nonsensical term and horse evolution is very well understood. We can go over that if you like.

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Audie

Veteran Member
Modern? well some animals have not changed... bees... spiders.. ants... and a horse is a horse of course of course...

And as you know most appear in the fossil record fully formed lacking history
(It's as if they were created. Imagine my surprise)

Skipping your "fully formed" creo-canard that you could
not explain what it supposedly means...

What of species known only from one partial specimen?
That is all that was created, a hip bone and three teeth?

No mommy and daddy either?

You say "most", but, what of those ( like horses btw) that
do show a long history with dramatic changes?

But never mind. That is evolution, not flood.
Your flood is disproved.
Now what?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
And that is a grossly simplified image. The known history has over fifty species, many of them going to a "dead end". Creationists love to quote mine the parts of articles that way that image is wrong. But it is wrong only because the history is much more complex than that implies, not because there is no history of horse evolution.

I am pretty much stumped. I don't see how anyone gets out of the 7th grade and still believes in Noah's flood.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Modern? well some animals have not changed... bees... spiders.. ants... and a horse is a horse of course of course...

And as you know most appear in the fossil record fully formed lacking history
(It's as if they were created. Imagine my surprise)
By all means, show us a tyrannosaurus fossil found with a horse. Or even modern bees, spiders or ants.

Go ahead. I'll wait.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
Something that's always bugged me about creationism is why must things always point towards Christianity? Even if you take the view that this is evidence of a great flood (which I don't) then why must this then indicate that Christianity is true?

Muslims have the same flood story. The ancient Greeks had a flood story, as did the Vikings and the Sumerians.

What makes their stories any less probable than the Christian version?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Something that's always bugged me about creationism is why must things always point towards Christianity? Even if you take the view that this is evidence of a great flood (which I don't) then why must this then indicate that Christianity is true?

Muslims have the same flood story. The ancient Greeks had a flood story, as did the Vikings and the Sumerians.

What makes their stories any less probable than the Christian version?

FLOOD in Norse Mythology
norse-mythology.cba.pl/page,109,flood.html
FLOOD FLOOD At the time of creation in Norse mythology, the giant ymir was killed by the gods. His spurting blood created a flood.

All the giants were drowned except bergelmir and his wife, who created a new race of giants. Oceans, seas, and lakes were formed from Ymir's blood.
 
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