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Featured Why would a god select only the few?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Wild Fox, May 30, 2021.

  1. Truthseeker9

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    Who said Odin and Thor are Messengers of God. I didn't. I'm talking about Messengers of God not gods.
     
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  2. Wild Fox

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    I was just trying to understand who these messengers of god are.
    Can you name some messengers to the people of Australia, north or south America, Eastern Asia?
     
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    You would have to study from the native shamans of those areas, but for example, what we call Angels they might call birds. What we call God (being worthy of worship) they might call the greatest spirit/soul. You know, just open your mind up and you will see the religion of God is everywhere in my view
     
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    The Bible specifically says that Yahweh was given the Hebrews as His people, like He’s a regional manager.
     
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    Kelly of the Phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Or believe in all. Cover your bases, lol.
     
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    Kelly of the Phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I mean, Canaanite gods were worshiped in Egypt. Joseph’s wife is named for Anat IIRC. Yahweh might not communicate with others but apparently His family did.
     
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    If you had asked me 10 years ago, I’d say one user, many usernames.
     
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    I don’t know all, therefore I can’t tell everyone else is wrong. But, it seems to me that most of other nations have at some point rejected the Bible God and begun to follow different god’s, or have added own meanings to the one and only true God so that He has become something else than what He really is.

    But, I think it is possible that in other nations there are righteous people, who have the correct understanding, even if not the all information, because:

    For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without the law. As many as have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. For it isn't the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified (for when Gentiles who don't have the law do by nature the things of the law, these, not having the law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience testifying with them, and their thoughts among themselves accusing or else excusing them) in the day when God will judge the secrets of men, according to my gospel, by Jesus Christ.
    Romans 2:12-16

    Jesus sent his disciples to all other nations, so I think he is inclusive.

    Therefore go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I commanded you. Behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
    Mat. 28:19-20

    I think also Jews are inclusive, but they don’t actively try to make others to follow Judaism. And I think also Christianity should be similar in that it would not force people. I think it is enough to give the opportunity, but not good to force anyone to follow.
     
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    I do find Jesus to be a particular Messenger to a particular people ( Jewish people ) - Luke 4:43
    After the demise (death) of Jesus (Acts 2:27) God resurrected Jesus, and resurrected Messenger Jesus gave his followers the same Message (Daniel 2:44) about God's Kingdom to convey world-wide to others (an international message)
    - Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8
     
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    Yes. Jesus' work started with the Jews - Luke 4:43
    But Jesus expanded his work to include being done on a vast international or global scale as being done today.
    - Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8
     
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    Yes, God loves the world, and if we continue reading down to John 3:36 we find the one who believes on the Son has everlasting life, and the one that believes Not the Son will Not see life, but God's wrath remains on him.
     
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    The ' gods ' of Psalms 82 is speaking about human Judges ( Exodus 4:16; Exodus 7:1-2).
    They were ' gods' in the sense that they were to use God's Judgement as to what was right or wrong.
    So, they were in the capacity of being representatives or spokesmen for God.
     
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    Not late because the modern-day message starts with our day or time frame because the setting or time frame for Revelation 1:10 is set in our time frame.
    Remember chapter 24 of Matthew has both 'minor' and a MAJOR fulfillment.
    The great tribulation of Revelation 7:14,9 is for our time.
    Habakkuk 1:1-5; Habakkuk 3:3 it will Not be generations late.....
     
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    I find God promised father Abraham that His promise to Abraham is intended to be universal, for all humanity.
    Please notice at Genesis 12:3 that ALL families of Earth will be blessed
    Please notice at Genesis 22:18 that ALL nations of Earth will be blessed
    Blessed with the benefit of HEALING for earth's nations according to Revelation 22:2
    Earth-wide HEALING as described at Isaiah 35th chapter.
    Even ' enemy death ' will be No more on Earth - 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
     
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    Jesus did speak to Samaritans - Remember the woman at the well ______
    Yes, Jesus went to the Jews - Luke 4:43 - but expanded it to include all of humanity - Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8
     
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    No that was Saul or Paul who expanded it out to the gentiles and it was the Roman army which helped its real expansion to the world. There is no record of Jesus deliberately going out to other people outside of the Jewish faith. So if Jesus is god then Jesus is reaffirming he is the god of the Jews. So up to that point we have a god isolated to only one group of people with no interaction with the rest of the world.
     
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    It is late for most of the worlds population up to the roman expansion of the faith and even then it was not up to very recent time of the world expansion. So this god ignored most of humanity in human history.
     
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    With all due respect to your feelings, it would only be the case that God ignored most of humanity if Jesus had been the only Manifestation of God that has ever existed, but I do not believe that to be the case as I explained in a previous post to you.
     
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    I will admit it that you did and I will take give it more consideration. Thanks.
     
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    When you do, please feel free to ask me any questions you might have. :)
    The truth about God is indeed a very important matter.
     
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