Not that I've seen and it's a very valid one. Notey is good at those!!:yes:
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why are atheistic worldviews so limited
- Thread starter chuck010342
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Because we have matured enough to no longer need a parent in order to survive.
Commoner
Headache
Look at the clouds, look at the trees!
You can't tell me that just came together by chance.
Also...it says so in the Bible!
chuck010342
Active Member
Wow... I bet YOUR one of those close minded people who leave this forum containing a wealth of knowledge in order to protect YOUR narrow, narrow beliefs
chuck010342
Active Member
Maybe the problem isn't with God. But with people who only THINK they are rational
chuck010342
Active Member
What makes you think mankind is mature? have you read the newspapers lately? Do you think Hitler and Stalin are Mature?
Buttons*
Glass half Panda'd
I have to wonder how you define "rational" because I don't think "belief" is rational no matter which way it swings. Rationality is a science of Philosophy, and comes with complete systems and "reason"... not belief.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Limited? I think you are a bit confused. on Sunday I'm scheduled to orgies into the night. on Monday, I'm eating Catholic babies spiced with chili and some fine red wine on the side, and im scheduled for other uplifting and entertaining secular fun for the rest of the week. world view wise, atheists have inspired Marxism, Communism, and other fine systems which have dominated many millions, subjugated them, and rooted out their religious beliefs. pretty nifty wouldnt you say?
atheism has inspired professional godless psychology, which dwells on sex and all its morbid aspects.
atheism has inspired the philosophy of the strong with the eternal declaration 'God is dead'
no, I would not say that atheistic world views are so limited.
between orgies, eating the other-other white meat and going to church on Sunday, im sure I dont need to tell you whats more entertaining and satisfying.
I find it beautiful, that in the gorgeous universe that we live in, there are people out there who don't need to profess superstitions in order to claim meaning.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Wow... I bet YOUR one of those close minded people who leave this forum containing a wealth of knowledge in order to protect YOUR narrow, narrow beliefs
Well that was original.
Your original post displays a complete and utter lack of sense.
This forum is for the big kids.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
While I don't reject the possibility of some sort of "god" like force in the universe, I don't believe in any of the presented concepts of such because they haven't been adequately substantiated by any solid evidence or logic. In my opinion our ideas of god are nothing more than empty speculation until something actually presents itself that can be directly observed or/and experienced.
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Hitler was a christian with the full blessing of the RCC. People mature at different rates. I never said mankind was mature enough to live without a parent, I said some of us were mature to live without a parent. God is still important for many people. Just not others. You wern't asking about everybody were you? I don't see that a belief in god is a problem and I don't see how not believing in the existence of god is a problem.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
If god is unable to keep his own revelations from being corrupted by man, it does little to support the idea of its omnipotence.
It's called "free will."
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
yes.
I have all to often heard this very excuse to explain the non-interference of this all knowing all powerful deity.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
As children we used to play a game where we sat in a large circle. The first player would whisper a short sentence into the ear of the player to their right. Then the sentence would be repeated around the circle until it returned to the original player. The larger the circle, the more the original sentence would change by the time the game was over.
This is a lesson in the inaccuracy of hearsay.
However, if the original player instead were to go to each individual and repeat the same original sentence into each players ear. There would be no change, and the original sentence would remain the same.
This is an example of the accuracy of direct witness.
If you were an omnipotent god who wished to make himself known accurately to mankind, which method would you use?
This is a lesson in the inaccuracy of hearsay.
However, if the original player instead were to go to each individual and repeat the same original sentence into each players ear. There would be no change, and the original sentence would remain the same.
This is an example of the accuracy of direct witness.
If you were an omnipotent god who wished to make himself known accurately to mankind, which method would you use?
MSizer
MSizer
And I can't believe, that despite the vacuum of evidence for any supernatural phenomena, combined with the various psychological and neuroscientific explanations for superstition, that people still Believe. Actually Believing isn't so incredible to me, because humans are predisposed to do it, but I am amazed at how they can maintain their credulity in the face of recent cognitive science developments.
That's a non sequitur.
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
One wonders why you brought it up then.
Just_me_Mike
Well-Known Member
What suggests to you, that God was interested in not letting his revelation be corrupted by man, and how does this make God any less, other than what your opinion might suggest?
You apply your reason and logic, to suggest God is concerned about "us" accurately understanding him. Why would you suggest that is God's desire and purpose, to make God's self known accurately to everyone?
There is God's objectives, and TW's theoretical God objectives, two totally different things.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
And IWE's theoretical apologetics.