Altfish
Veteran Member
The benefits keep on coming.....
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whats your beef with brexit?
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Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
They do. My friend a car repair garage owner has just been telling me about spiralling costs of parts and delivery charges - which he will have to pass on. All these people who STILL support brexit - what do they do? Do they realise they are being economically impacted?
Today's [UK] newspapers are full of talk of a coming "trade war" with the EU over... sausages. But the EU has not changed a single rule.
So what is happening? The Brexit deal that the UK government signed – designed specifically to meet its red lines and demands – places Northern Ireland effectively within the EU single market, and the rest of the UK outside it. The EU didn't want to divide the country into two different trade zones – that was the UK's decision.
There was a temporary carve-out for some food exports but that is now about to expire. So those sausages can't go to Northern Ireland.
The British government is acting like this is an outrage – but it has been there in black and white in the deal all along. It is there because the UK insisted on refusing to align with EU food hygiene standards. They always knew this was coming.
The government made it painfully obvious that it was going to renege on the final Brexit deal when it tried to pass a law last year that would have broken the withdrawal agreement. As Theresa May's former chief of staff Gavin Barwell put it, "They knew it was a bad deal but agreed it to get Brexit done, intending to wriggle out of it later". So the EU made sure to build in protections with teeth for when that happened.
The EU has simply said that it the UK continues to openly ignore the rules it signed up to in the Brexit deal, then it will act "swiftly, firmly and resolutely to ensure that the UK abides by its international law obligations". Brexit Britain can't break the rules without consequences
Stay European
So what is happening? The Brexit deal that the UK government signed – designed specifically to meet its red lines and demands – places Northern Ireland effectively within the EU single market, and the rest of the UK outside it. The EU didn't want to divide the country into two different trade zones – that was the UK's decision.
There was a temporary carve-out for some food exports but that is now about to expire. So those sausages can't go to Northern Ireland.
The British government is acting like this is an outrage – but it has been there in black and white in the deal all along. It is there because the UK insisted on refusing to align with EU food hygiene standards. They always knew this was coming.
The government made it painfully obvious that it was going to renege on the final Brexit deal when it tried to pass a law last year that would have broken the withdrawal agreement. As Theresa May's former chief of staff Gavin Barwell put it, "They knew it was a bad deal but agreed it to get Brexit done, intending to wriggle out of it later". So the EU made sure to build in protections with teeth for when that happened.
The EU has simply said that it the UK continues to openly ignore the rules it signed up to in the Brexit deal, then it will act "swiftly, firmly and resolutely to ensure that the UK abides by its international law obligations". Brexit Britain can't break the rules without consequences
Stay European
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Unfortunately, the more apparent the negative consequences of Brexit become, the more those who voted for it double down on their position.
It’s a bit like an unsuccessful gambler chasing his losses, all the way to the poorhouse.
It’s a bit like an unsuccessful gambler chasing his losses, all the way to the poorhouse.
Altfish
Veteran Member
The only thing he does is say something along the lines of ..."It is not the right sort of Brexit"
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
I did experience a little bit of schadenfruede, when Tim Martin was asking for special visas so EU citizens could come and work in his grim joyless boozers.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Priceless, wasn't it.
EU citizens who applied to stay in Britain facing threat of deportation
The Home Office appears to be in breach of the Brexit withdrawal agreement, says legal charity
EU citizens who applied to stay in Britain facing threat of deportation
The Home Office appears to be in breach of the Brexit withdrawal agreement, says legal charity
EU citizens who applied to stay in Britain facing threat of deportation
Martin
Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
The dire shortage of HGV drivers is ongoing in the UK, with worries about empty supermarket shelves. Apparently the transport industry asked recently for an EU visa scheme to be introduced (to get back some of the "lost" EU drivers), but the government wasn't keen on that.
Martin
Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
Have Brits living in Europe had any problems?
No. Application for the residency permit, despite dreaded french bureaucracy, was pretty straight forward and on time for the deadline.
I've not heard anything of any problems. Even friends who applied very late have received their card
Friends in Germany have had it even easier, basically just a formality.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy
Wetherspoon is running out of beer – is this really the Brexit you voted for, Tim Martin?
Wetherspoon is running out of beer – is this really the Brexit you voted for, Tim Martin?
Altfish
Veteran Member
You know, I have been laughing ever since I heard this story ... at last ... a benefit of Brexit
Me too, it really tickled me, karma is a wonderful thing
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
People aren't "getting over it."
- British leavers and remainers as polarised as ever, survey finds
...and it's a pity those that did not vote couldn't be bothered:
"While few respondents who voted in the 2016 referendum appeared to have changed their view in the intervening five years, there was evidence of a shift among those who had not participated. More than twice as many (43%) in this group said they would now vote remain rather than back leave (18%)."
- British leavers and remainers as polarised as ever, survey finds
...and it's a pity those that did not vote couldn't be bothered:
"While few respondents who voted in the 2016 referendum appeared to have changed their view in the intervening five years, there was evidence of a shift among those who had not participated. More than twice as many (43%) in this group said they would now vote remain rather than back leave (18%)."
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
His hypocrisy is breathtaking.