sooda
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I'm talking about the Bible. Poking fun at Graham is a distraction not appropriate to today, the Lord's day.
Do you need proof that Jesus existed?
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I'm talking about the Bible. Poking fun at Graham is a distraction not appropriate to today, the Lord's day.
...how is that evidence of anything other that there was a road there?
I'm talking about the Bible. Poking fun at Graham is a distraction not appropriate to today, the Lord's day.
Do you need proof that Jesus existed?
If you see a movie set in New York, and later discover New York is a real place, that doesn't make the story in the movie "true". That seems to be the basic argument of all the evidence you're presenting here. Finding evidence of a street that Biblical figures MIGHT have walked on is not actually evidence for the existence of those Bible figures, let alone that they did anything the Bible says they did.From the older books like Judges, the tribe of Dan fell into idolotry
and surprise surprise... archeological confirmation
Top biblical archaeology stories of 2018
Israelites in Biblical Dan Worshipped Idols – and Yahweh Too
Israel is famously the place where the three great monotheist religions arose – but the truth about our forefathers is that they didn't seem to have scorned idol gods quite as assiduously as we might like to think.
The vast majority of historians agree Jesus did exist and was crucified
That includes the radical skeptic Bart Erhman "But as a historian I think evidence matters. And the past matters. And for anyone to whom both evidence and the past matter, a dispassionate consideration of the case makes it quite plain: Jesus did exist."
He not only existed but the consensus of historians would go on and say his tomb was empty
and his disciples came to believe Jesus rose from the dead
HAHAHA. A page was sent to my email saying Billy Grahams son has ideas on new evidence for Christian having existed! I get o the page its a picture of him preaching not a video LOL! And its has nothing about any new evidence on Christ! LMFAO! All it is is a long page description of the Graham books and their family!Must have been a trick.
The fact that Christians fill the need to bring new evidence in for Christ just means they are feeling weakened by historians scientists and Atheists who are bringing the real truth to people. maybe the Christian faith is just a bit threatened. Why tell a lie to sell the Grahams books?
Deception is nothing new in promoting religion.
A few years ago there was a knock on my door, 2 guys proceeded to talk about health and offered me a magazine in NHS colours with a NHS logo.
After they left i picked up the mag. Front page featured a story on keeping your heart healthy, what to eat, exercise etc.
Opened it up, the inner cover was blank and carefully stapled in was a copy of watchtower.
Oh wow... How brazen.
It appears that your very own imagination about what you suspect the writers were up to has you convinced Jesus existed.I think Jesus existed. I am not sure about walking on water and such.. I suspect the gospel writers were gilding the lily... and tweaking the story to make Jesus fit the OT predictions of an anointed warrior king.
Roads are discovered and imaginations begin to run wild, no, it appears burnt toast still ranks near the top.You can do better than that
Jan 25, 2019 - JERUSALEM, ISRAEL
In A Tunnel Underground In East Jerusalem A Large Roman Walkway 700 Yards In Length Has Been Dug-Through From The Time Of Jesus Which Could Be The Same Walkway That Jesus Told The Blind Man To Go From The Temple And Wash At The Pool Of Siloam Which Was Located At The Southern Corner Of The City Of David. The Excavation Reveals What Could Be The Main Thoroughfare From The Poor City Of David To The Temple Of Herod.
-Washington Post
It appears that your very own imagination about what you suspect the writers were up to has you convinced Jesus existed.
My favorite was the virgin Mary at the bottom of a peanut tin.I think burnt toast ranks as some of the best evidence to date, see what Graham comes up with.
You make an excellent point. A portrayal can certainly be at odds of which it's based on.If you see a movie set in New York, and later discover New York is a real place, that doesn't make the story in the movie "true". That seems to be the basic argument of all the evidence you're presenting here. Finding evidence of a street that Biblical figures MIGHT have walked on is not actually evidence for the existence of those Bible figures, let alone that they did anything the Bible says they did.
Looks like a blob to me I didnt see Mother Mary in it.My favorite was the virgin Mary at the bottom of a peanut tin.
Fella had crosses, candles, and Ava Maria playing in the background.
You make an excellent point. A portrayal can certainly be at odds of which it's based on.
The vast majority of historians agree Jesus did exist and was crucified
That includes the radical skeptic Bart Erhman "But as a historian I think evidence matters. And the past matters. And for anyone to whom both evidence and the past matter, a dispassionate consideration of the case makes it quite plain: Jesus did exist."
He not only existed but the consensus of historians would go on and say his tomb was empty
and his disciples came to believe Jesus rose from the dead
I would bet there could be people that might think spiderman actually existed a few thousand years from now.Spiderman lived in New York does that mean Spiderman exists?
WHy is it that I keep hearing vast majority of Historian claim Jesus existed and when I keep reading websights from Historians who say the exact opposite. Ive read lots of Historic material that says he does not exist.
I think its quite plain Jesus did not exist.
The vast majority of historians agree Jesus did exist and was crucified
That includes the radical skeptic Bart Erhman "But as a historian I think evidence matters. And the past matters. And for anyone to whom both evidence and the past matter, a dispassionate consideration of the case makes it quite plain: Jesus did exist."
He not only existed but the consensus of historians would go on and say his tomb was empty
and his disciples came to believe Jesus rose from the dead