What is wrong with those religions who allow nonsuicidal self-injury?

[sovietchild]

What is wrong with those religions who allows this fashion? Is it an extreme way to remember history? Is it not a form of sacrafice?

What is wrong with those religions that allows cutting themselves with swords and knives?

 

[Rational Agnostic]

What is wrong with those religions who allows this fashion? Is it an extreme way to remember history? Is it not a form of sacrafice?

What is wrong with those religions that allows cutting themselves with swords and knives?

Agreed, there is something wrong with religions that permit people to harm themselves, both suicidally and non-sucidially.

 

[Quetzal]

What is wrong with people who continuously create posts with a negative connotation towards a group of individuals they disagree with?

 

[George-ananda]

To some people it may be a sign of intense identification with the suffering of their religious founders and brethren. To some it might be to punish the flesh for its weakness (and symbolically it could work as a reminder); even fasting can be a reminder against weaknesses of the flesh. Also for training of the mind, it can help the mind learn to ignore physical pain making it more steady in all circumstances.

I personally have no interest in engaging in such practices.

 

[Kirran]

Dude, enough with the 'what is wrong with...' threads. Let's have some positivity and less judgementalism. 'I am curious about the reasons people do X, as it doesn't make sense to me' would work just fine.

 

[Vinayaka]

Nothing. Nothing is wrong with this or any other ideas presented different than your own. In fact there is nothing wrong with people declaring that everyone else and all other viewpoints except one's own are wrong. The world is constantly in a perfect state of evolving, although I and others lean towards this degree of intolerance being somewhere near the lower states of a soul's evolution.

And yes, I've done kavadi (google it) but there is no way you would understand it or the reasons behind it.

 

[Kirran]

And yes, I've done kavadi (google it) but there is no way you would understand it or the reasons behind it.

Ah, you have? I didn't know that.

At SV a guy once requested a swami put a vel through his tongue for him. He did it, but afterwards said it was going too far.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Nothing at all. Pain also produces altered states of consciousness which are useful in spiritual practices.

 

[Nyingjé Tso]

Vanakkam

Nothing is wrong with those
I hope to do Kavadi one day in my life ! You are blessed VinayakaJi

Aum Namah Shivaya

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

What is wrong with those religions who allows this fashion? Is it an extreme way to remember history? Is it not a form of sacrafice?

What is wrong with those religions that allows cutting themselves with swords and knives?

Admit it, you're just doing this for the attention, aren't you?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

What is wrong with those religions who allows this fashion? Is it an extreme way to remember history? Is it not a form of sacrafice?

What is wrong with those religions that allows cutting themselves with swords and knives?

I'm just going to leave this picture from the following link here...

Spoiler: Graphic images of Shia Muslims beating themselves bloody with blades on chains

 

[sovietchild]

Admit it, you're just doing this for the attention, aren't you?

I'm sorry to trouble you but I prefer if you contribute to this topic what you think about this fashion, is there nothing wrong or is there something wrong with those religions.

And yes, I've done kavadi (google it) but there is no way you would understand it or the reasons behind it.

I have never herd about that. I will youtube it.

It made my stomach sick and I turned it off.

 

[Vinayaka]

Ah, you have? I didn't know that.

At SV a guy once requested a swami put a vel through his tongue for him. He did it, but afterwards said it was going too far.

There is an aversion at first, yes, but its really associated with Murugan worship. In places where its considered normal, the piercers have tons of experience, and are really good at what they do. No different than acupuncture, (very quickly very straight, and with confidence. I had one through both cheeks, and two by the eyebrows) but I imagine OP would have a problem with that too.

 

[Kirran]

I'm sorry to trouble you but I prefer if you contribute to this topic what you think about this fashion, is there nothing wrong or is there something wrong with those religions.

I am sorry to trouble you, but I prefer if you respond to my post.

 

[Kirran]

There is an aversion at first, yes, but its really associated with Murugan worship. In places where its considered normal, the piercers have tons of experience, and are really good at what they do. No different than acupuncture, (very quickly very straight, and with confidence. I had one through both cheeks, and two by the eyebrows) but I imagine OP would have a problem with that too.

I think getting it through the tongue can be quite damaging. Tapas has its place, you know? Some people get carried away and lose sight of what it's about.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm just going to leave this picture from the following link here...

Spoiler: Graphic images of Shia Muslims beating themselves bloody with blades on chains

Also: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pic...ring-Easter-in-Philippines.html?frame=2885444
http://www.gettyimages.com/event/the-vattienti-of-calabria-during-holy-week-163228918

The Maya and Aztecs would use pain-inflicting practices to worship the Gods, too.

 

[Jumi]

I don't like it myself, but if it's of their free will, I say let them do it. Think of it this way, at least they are not hurting others.

 

[Vinayaka]

I think getting it through the tongue can be quite damaging. Tapas has its place, you know? Some people get carried away and lose sight of what it's about.

Not if you know what you're doing. But yes if you don't. It's about location. In Mauritius nearly everyone got the tongue, and many, especially the ladies, it was just the tongue. Friends told me tongue is easier than cheeks. Was the guy at SV from Sri Lanka, or Mauritius. I've heard of it at the Wimbledon Murugan temple too ... in fact by a Mauritian friend of mine.

Yes, it does get carried away , and has become a show-odd macho thing in some places. In Malaysia they banned the loud non bhakti music.

 

[Vinayaka]

Vanakkam

Nothing is wrong with those
I hope to do Kavadi one day in my life ! You are blessed VinayakaJi

Aum Namah Shivaya

Ask around at the Ganesha temple. Here this year may be the first time its done with such gusto and in that way. I finally found a piercer, so we'll see what happens. If you really wanted it, I could hook you up with friends in Mauritius who would guide you along.

 

[sovietchild]

I don't like it myself, but if it's of their free will, I say let them do it. Think of it this way, at least they are not hurting others.

Well this topic about religions. So do those religions hurt others? And what is wrong with those religions?