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Public thread, am i not allowed to show how wrong you are?. When people promote murder should i just sit back and ignore it?
Right? And this is my "problem" with you. This disease has killed millions worldwide but be because an imbecile I the Whitehouse mocks it then people become skeptical. And so flout medical recommendations and hence the us, the most technologically advanced country in the world shows the highest number of deaths pet capita. Right??? No, very wrong.
Covid 19 has KILLED hundreds of thousands, so does an atomic bomb but the bomb makes a bang and destroys property, covid doesn't.
It is a big deal when someone promotes skepticism over a killer, when that skepticism can entice the flouting of recommendations which in turn may kill a third party. I don't know about you but i an keen to see my kids grow to become responsible adults...
You're "tone" is uncalled for.
Promote murder? When have I promoted murder?
That sounds like you're reading A LOT into what I'm saying. I know you have strong feelings about the topic but there's no use in raising your tone for another person's "opinion."
Okay.... Some people can't be skeptical??
People are skeptical for Many reasons. We're not all murderers just because we are skeptical (RF tends to let us hold opinions without hopefully being attacked for them)
Yes. That's my point. One is an immediate threat. The other is not. That's probably why there is high politics in the latter.
Don't take it out on me, though. I have a less risk of catching the illness (and many of them), so it doesn't affect me as hard as older folks, or people who have pre-existing illnesses et cetera to which their immune system is weakened. I try to take things into perspective.
I understand it's a personal issue for you. It is for a lot of people. That doesn't change my opinion but calling me a killer (or promoting such) is totally uncalled for. You act as if I walk out coughing on people and making them sick. Opinions don't kill. Actions do.
You promote skepticism, you can waffle all you want but i will always consider that, in the case if covid 19, to be akin to deliberate murder. Peoples lives are at stake and if you refuse to see that when dont whinge to me because i take it seriously.
Skepticism just questions the truth or doubt about something.
The truth is beyond doubt, to question facts in the light of evidence is aluminium hat territory.
And contradicting your claims is not getting upset
Not at all. You said it might be overly feared and I said some people might not have feared it enough. How is that twisting anything?Obviously you chose to twist anything I said.
What do people care about? People spend time and money on what they care about.
From the looks of things, at least where I live in the United States, it seems as if people do not care much about God or their religion; they care more about material things, entertainment, and social activities.
I understand that people need to work in order to eat and pay the rent but that is not what I am referring to. I am referring to what people do not really need, but rather what they want. Other than groceries, they do not need to go shopping, eat out or go to bars, and they do not need to go to the gym or to the movies or sporting events, and they do not need to engage in social activities or go traveling. Is this what people live for?
I understand that most people want all these things but they do not need them. Why is it so difficult for people to give these things up, at least during this pandemic?
Why Aren't You Praying to End COVID-19?
SalixIncendium said: ...So why aren't you praying?
1213 said: I pray that media stops lying about it.
So who here thinks Covid-19 is all a hoax?
Many people attended large gatherings witout masks and later got sick. Maybe if they feared it enough to wear a mask they would not get sick. Not everyone of course but maybe quite a lot.I do not know why there would be a correlation. That is like saying that those people all died because they were not careful enough, but I do not think that is necessarily the case. It might be true for some but not for all people...
Owing to people's different life situations not all people can remain completely isolated from others so some people are at risk.
And maybe she is still healthy while others are sick. Who knows?And I tend to agree with you on that. I mean it is wise to be prudent, but when I saw a woman spraying her groceries with disinfectant as she entered her car I thought that was a bit much.
Accusations (promoting murder) and assumptions (i.e. you don't care about people) make online text sound emotionally charged.
Skepticism doesn't say something is true or false and, by nature of the definition, it doesn't promote anything right or wrong.
I just don't have the "passion" you guys have over this (and other) issues.
It's fine to question my skepticism but not insofar to accuse me of murder.
I have told you my opinion,. I will clarify, if an asymptomatic (or worse, symptomatic) covid carrier without mask and ignoring social distancing breathes, (that's breathes, not coughs) near someone then there is a possibility they catch covid which may or may not be deadly. Given the information available that carrier knows the risks and refuses to take measures to mitigate cross infection. To me that is deliberate. People need to be responsible for their deliberate actions. It is simply not worth pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger if you don't know if the gun is loaded with live or blank ammunition
Actually scepticism doubts truth.
I have nor accused you of murder (i don't think, if i have then i apologise) however i have shown you my thinking. As a similarity. In Russia transmitting hiv, whether knowing or unknowingly is an offense punishable with imprisonment and/or hard labour.
Oh and btw. Contrary to your opinion i don't have a problem with you, in fact i find you rather sweet much of the time. I just do not agree with you on your views about covid.
While we may not see eye-to-eye on many other things, @Trailblazer, I am in agreement with you here wholeheartedly.I understand that people need to work in order to eat and pay the rent but that is not what I am referring to. I am referring to what people do not really need, but rather what they want. Other than groceries, they do not need to go shopping, eat out or go to bars, and they do not need to go to the gym or to the movies or sporting events, and they do not need to engage in social activities or go traveling. Is this what people live for?
I know. You're repeated this. Did you want me to agree because I don't disagree.
What do you want me to say?
I don't concern myself too much with COVID
Thank you. You said I promoted murder. That hit a cord.
I don't know what else you want me to say about your opinion.
Your tone and actions are contradicting this, though. Why would you "ignore" someone you just disagree with?
The only couple things I think we disagree on (in my opinion) is the severity of the issue in light of other illnesses and the political nature that COVID is embedded in. I'm not a "take sides" person but try to put things in perspective.
Oh, i thought you didn't understand.
Is that so?
You don't say
You've said
Tone??? On the internet, text with inflection... cool
Why not?
You got that right, i have seen good people die who shouldn't have died dir several years, thats serious
Christine. No need for the sarcasm (above).
Like I said. I don't have the same passion and feelings about COVID as others do. If it were things like asthma, cancer, or something yes, I would to an extent. I just have to put things in perspective. People are dying all over the world over many many diseases. If I let myself fall into emotions over every person who is sick and dying, I'd throw myself into depression.
No need for the sarcasm.
No need to get defensive because I said its sarcasm.
Just don't take your issues out on me, and we're fine.
I have skepticism every time I get into a car knowing even seat belts may not prevent my death or someone else’s. According to Worldmeter statistics there has been over 1,203, 780 traffic deaths this year. Do you consider me a murder because I drive a car? Should the government prohibit automobiles, buses, etc. because thousands die because of these each year? Do you drive a vehicle that could kill someone?You promote skepticism, you can waffle all you want but i will always consider that, in the case if covid 19, to be akin to deliberate murder. Peoples lives are at stake and if you refuse to see that when dont whinge to me because i take it seriously.
Opinions dictate actions
That was not sarcasm
And you think much of yourself to consider this was issues.
I fully agree. One man can do a lot of damage when he garners so many followers who believe in him. It is just like a cult.. People do not think for themselves at all, they just worship and follow the man. It is sickening... Just thank goodness you do not have to live in the U.S. It is downright scary and depressing to think that 40% of the population voted from Trump, a pathological liar. What does that say about their character?This disease has killed millions worldwide but be because an imbecile I the Whitehouse mocks it then people become skeptical. And so flout medical recommendations and hence the us, the most technologically advanced country in the world shows the highest number of deaths pet capita. Right??? No, very wrong.
I have skepticism every time I get into a car knowing even seat belts may not prevent my death or someone else’s. According to Worldmeter statistics there has been over 1,203, 780 traffic deaths this year. Do you consider me a murder because I drive a car? Should the government prohibit automobiles, buses, etc. because thousands die because of these each year? Do you drive a vehicle that could kill someone?