We have a female Prime Minister

[Rival]

I don't get why so many dislike her, she's a typical conservative.

 

[Estro Felino]

I don't get why so many dislike her, she's a typical conservative.

Also a Brexit supporter and an admirer of British conservatives.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I do respect your opinions.
I side with the people. Whom the lounge-loving and carefree banking and financial élites despise.

Uh huh.

Do you side with fascists?

 

[Rival]

Wanting to reduce immigration? FASCISM.
Wanting to focus on the nuclear family and raise falling birth rates? FASCISM.
Wanting to talk about God? FASCISM.
Wanting to take pride in one's own culture? FASCISM.

Fascism everywhere!!!!

 

[Spirit of Light]

Maybe this can reassure you.

I understood most of what she said...without the subtitle

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Also a Brexit supporter and an admirer of British conservatives.

Ah yes, a great sign that she supports stable, sensible policies and governments.

 

[Rival]

Ah yes, a great sign that she supports stable, sensible policies and governments.

Yes, it is.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Wanting to reduce immigration? FASCISM.
Wanting to focus on the nuclear family and raise falling birth rates? FASCISM.
Wanting to talk about God? FASCISM.
Wanting to take pride in one's own culture? FASCISM.

Fascism everywhere!!!!

Admiring fascist leaders?
Attempting to lionise fascist campaigner in your history?
Re-purposing fascist slogans and symbols?
Talking openly about wanting to remove rights from minority groups?
Speaking euphemistically about your own culture?

Yes. Fascism.

 

[Estro Felino]

Uh huh.

Do you side with fascists?

Fascism died 77 years ago.
Definitively.
It's like I spoke of Charlemagne.
Please.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Yes, it is.

I will repeat. Brexit and British Conservatives.

You might want to take a look at what happened during the terms of our last five prime minsters.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Fascism died 77 years ago.

Nope.

 

[Estro Felino]

Nope.

The Left says they are for women in charge...
where are the female leaders?

 

[Rival]

Admiring fascist leaders?
Attempting to lionise fascist campaigner in your history?
Re-purposing fascist slogans and symbols?
Talking openly about wanting to remove rights from minority groups?
Speaking euphemistically about your own culture?
Advocating white genocide conspiracy theories?

Yes. Fascism.

None of these things make one a Fascist, regardless whether she's actually engaging in them or that's just what's being said about her.

I will repeat. Brexit and British Conservatives.

You might want to take a look at what happened during the terms of our last five prime minsters.

You might want to consider the idea behind a thing and how the idea has been carried out. Just because the Conservatives have been a hash, it doesn't mean the idea itself is a hash. This simply does not logically follow. She may like some of the Tory policies, who knows? I didn't particularly see the problem with slight tax cuts. I didn't really see why Boris had to be got rid of. But whatever I guess.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The Left says they are for women in charge...
where are the female leaders?

Are you engaging in identity politics?

 

[Estro Felino]

I understood most of what she said...without the subtitle

That's very nice.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

None of these things make one a Fascist, regardless whether she's actually engaging in them or that's just what's being said about her.

You might want to read up on it.

You might want to consider the idea behind a thing and how the idea has been carried out. Just because the Conservatives have been a hash, it doesn't mean the idea itself is a hash.

So you admit that the Conservatives are bad at their jobs and admiring them would be very stupid. I agree.

And considering the number one issue as to why FIVE PRIME MINSTERS IN A ROW HAVE RESIGNED is because they cannot get Brexit to work, I would say with a huge degree of confidence that Brexit is a very stupid thing to admire too.

This simply does not logically follow. She may like some of the Tory policies, who knows? I didn't particularly see the problem with slight tax cuts. I didn't really see why Boris had to be got rid of. But whatever I guess.

Because the Conservatives can't get their act together, can't form a cogent government, keep failing the people, keep trying to implement policies that are hated and don't work, and because Brexit is currently nothing more than a sword prime minster after prime minster has to fall on.

Admiring either the British Conservative party or Brexit at this stage is kind of like admiring the idea of building a house using nuclear waste. I mean, sure, it would great if it DID work, but in actual practice only an idiot would point to the irradiated heap of molten flesh that is what became of the poor family who moved into their semi-detached home and say "That's a good idea!"

 

[Spirit of Light]

That's very nice.

I used to learn italian language about 15 years ago, but I use it to little

 

[Rival]

You might want to read up on it.

I know what Fascism is. She's not it.

So you admit that the Conservatives are bad at their jobs and admiring them would be very stupid. I agree.

And considering the number one issue as to why FIVE OF PRIME MINSTERS IN A ROW HAVE RESIGNED is because they cannot get Brexit to work, I would say with a huge degree of confidence that Brexit is a very stupid thing to admire too.

Err, this is not all about Brexit. Incase you hadn't noticed, there's been a worldwide pandemic lasting over a year that has led to economic turmoil for the whole of Europe and beyond, not just the UK. There's also a war in the East which we're funding. There's also deteriorating relations with China. Also just the general business of running a country. To blame this all on Brexit is questionable at best.

Because the Conservatives can't get their act together, can't form a cogent government, keep failing the people, keep trying to implement policies that are hated and don't work, and because Brexit is currently nothing more than a sword prime minster after prime minster has to fall on.

Meh.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I know what Fascism is. She's not it.

Well, I disagree, but I hope you are correct. As the quote said before, power reveals. We may see what she is soon enough, and I sincerely hope all the signs I've seen are misleading.

Err, this is not all about Brexit. Incase you hadn't noticed, there's been a worldwide pandemic lasting over a year that has led to economic turmoil for the whole of Europe and beyond, not just the UK. There's also a war in the East which we're funding. There's also deteriorating relations with China. We also just the general business of running a country. To blame this all on Brexit is questionable at best.

I didn't. I said it was the number one issue - which it is. David Cameron resigned because he lost the Brexit vote. Theresa May resigned over a vote of no confidence in her ability to lead Brexit negotiations. Boris Johnson's resignation became inevitable once his minster for Brexit resigned. Liz Truss... was just a trash fire in every way, including her Brexit negotiations, but it may be overly simplistic to say it was purely Brexit.

Whatever way you look at it, Brexit played a significant role in the resignations of all four of our last prime minsters, and it is undeniable that - even looking purely at Brexit pre-covid, or pre-war, or pre-any kind of international crisis separate of Brexit - it as a policy has been a failure from beginning to last.

 

[Lyndon]

The Left says they are for women in charge...
where are the female leaders?

Yes only a quarter of her cabinet is female, she put the men in charge as usual for right wing leaders