"We came to riot"

[Quagmire]

I have the temerity to tell you what you want.
You'll take it...& you'll like it, buster!

You want to express your views without being mischievously told what they are.

Yup. That and a solar powered bicycle/coffee maker.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yup. That and a solar powered bicycle/coffee maker.

It's doable, with a big enuf battery, & an inverter.

I'm working out some of the kinks on a tandem I'm designing.

 

[oldbadger]

Fixed.

I hadn't annoyed you yet today,
so I offered this.

I didn't make that mistake. My mobile decided to do that.

 

[Revoltingest]

I didn't make that mistake. My mobile decided to do that.

Mobiles are me minions.

 

[esmith]

But what about the masses?
You show us a few individuals and suggest that these are the whole population showing its anger?

Nah!.........

Are you advocating the the looters are just angry protesters. Are you advocating to Ignore them and they will go away?

 

[oldbadger]

Are you advocating the the looters are just angry protesters. Are you advocating to Ignore them and they will go away?

Amazing........
So you found it difficult to understand:-
You show us a few individuals and suggest that these are the whole population showing its anger?
Nah!.........??

How did that advocate crime?

 

[esmith]

Amazing........
So you found it difficult to understand:-
You show us a few individuals and suggest that these are the whole population showing its anger?
Nah!.........??

How did that advocate crime?

as long as they are burning or looting they are scum and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[oldbadger]

as long as they are burning or looting they are scum and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

And what % of the protesters are doing that?

Tens of thousands have demonstrated in Houston today....... in peace.

 

[oldbadger]

as long as they are burning or looting they are scum and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

What do you think should happen to killer cops?
The arrested cop has already been involved in three shooting incidents, one of them was fatal.

Do you support the people in their anger or not?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

One is white and I bet the other is, too. We're seeing this happen throughout the country. It appears that people allied with the alt-right and undercover cops are infiltrating the protests, inciting riots, destroying property and looting (it's mostly young white men dressed in similar ways breaking open buildings for looting). They're doing it because they know the blame will be laid on black people and Antifa. They're doing Trump's bidding to discredit leftism and black people.

 

[esmith]

Even though you are English I would at least assume that you understood the American language. But looking at your comments I guess not.
Look the below first quote. I said "burning or looting" this is a criminal act or do you not understand that, or is it you believe that the destruction of property, the looting of businesses, or any other violent acts is an acceptable means of protesting

as long as they are burning or looting they are scum and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

And what % of the protesters are doing that?
Tens of thousands have demonstrated in Houston today....... in peace.

What do you think should happen to killer cops?
The arrested cop has already been involved in three shooting incidents, one of them was fatal.

I think any LEO that commits a crime should be prosecuted.
As far as the "involved shootings".... From what I know they were found to be justifiable. If you have information that shows they were not "justifiable" then present it..

Do you support the people in their anger or not?

I may not agree with all protest but I do support anyone that protest as long as they remain peaceful.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Here's a little perspective of what has been going on both here in Minneapolis and accross the country.

An Illinois man who came to Minneapolis to riot over the weekend livestreamed himself handing out explosives, destroying property and appearing to set a Sprint store on fire, according to charges filed in the U.S. District Court of Minnesota on Monday afternoon.

........

Last Thursday night, Rupert, of Galesburg, Ill., posted on his public Facebook page an invitation for "goons" to join him in traveling to Minneapolis, where he said he was renting hotel rooms and planned to wreak havoc and "take hella good videos."

The livestreamed videos, cited as evidence by FBI investigators in the complaint, show his role in the riots on Friday night and early Monday, including distributing explosives and then announcing, "He's throwing my bombs ... they're going to bomb the police with them."

"Good shot, my boy," he shouted after one of the explosions, according to the complaint. "We came here to riot," he declared later.

Later in the night, Rupert asked for lighter fluid and entered a Sprint store, according to the complaint. "I lit it on fire," he said, before entering an Office Depot and stealing items from it.​

'We came to riot': Illinois man livestreamed lighting fires in Minneapolis


Also:

‘Let’s start a riot’: Galesburg man hit with federal charge related to rioting in Chicago [that should read Minneapolis, not Chicago]

The charges against Rupert hit as U.S. officials seek to determine if extremist groups had infiltrated protests nationwide and deliberately tipped largely peaceful demonstrations toward violence — and if foreign adversaries were behind a burgeoning disinformation campaign on social media.​

Well I have to admit it is quite a progressive generation.

They come with their own evidence. Can't get much better than that.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Did you seriously take the time to explain to me what bemused means when I had added a tongue-stick-out smiley to show I was joking?

Pardon me for trying to help you.

 

[Harel13]

Pardon me for trying to help you.

I'm sorry. Help is generally appreciated. However, you caught me a bit off-guard. I figured it was clear that I was joking.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I'm sorry. Help is generally appreciated. However, you caught me a bit off-guard. I figured it was clear that I was joking.

OK, sorry for misunderstanding you.

 

[oldbadger]

Even though you are English I would at least assume that you understood the American language. But looking at your comments I guess not.

It depends who is talking to me. I sure don't understand wafflre.

Look the below first quote. I said "burning or looting" this is a criminal act or do you not understand that, or is it you believe that the destruction of property, the looting of businesses, or any other violent acts is an acceptable means of protesting.

I arrested theft and some violence for over quarter of a century. Every working day. Don't talk down to me if you want me to take any notice.

I think any LEO that commits a crime should be prosecuted.
As far as the "involved shootings".... From what I know they were found to be justifiable. If you have information that shows they were not "justifiable" then present it..

At this time in your country a whole bunch of folks do not trust the findings of police (any) reviews on police actions. Don't you get that?
Did you see how the first video filmer (of the murder) was frightened off by one of the cops? Did you see how that cop tried to deter the second filmer but she stood her ground? Without that evidence the people believe that this murder would have become 'justifiable'. There is no trust.
And I can tell you that that when demonstrations turn in to riots that pillaging and looting can happen, but now evidence can be collected and reviewed later........ very few of the looters will get away with it. They make mistakes on camera and their acquaintances report them later.

Just now America needs a real leader to show the people that policing in the USA will change..... forever.
Hope you understood my English....

I may not agree with all protest but I do support anyone that protest as long as they remain peaceful.

If you support a change in policing then that could help.

 

[esmith]

It depends who is talking to me. I sure don't understand wafflre.


I arrested theft and some violence for over quarter of a century. Every working day. Don't talk down to me if you want me to take any notice.


At this time in your country a whole bunch of folks do not trust the findings of police (any) reviews on police actions. Don't you get that?
Did you see how the first video filmer (of the murder) was frightened off by one of the cops? Did you see how that cop tried to deter the second filmer but she stood her ground? Without that evidence the people believe that this murder would have become 'justifiable'. There is no trust.
And I can tell you that that when demonstrations turn in to riots that pillaging and looting can happen, but now evidence can be collected and reviewed later........ very few of the looters will get away with it. They make mistakes on camera and their acquaintances report them later.

Just now America needs a real leader to show the people that policing in the USA will change..... forever.
Hope you understood my English....


If you support a change in policing then that could help.

I suspect neither one of us understood what the other was attempting to communicate.

The only way to stop the destruction of property, looting, attacking/shooting of private citizens shooting of LEO’s ,by the current herd of criminals is to show strong leadership. By this I mean taking firm positive action to stop the unlawful activities. By positive action I do not mean hoping the problem will go away. At this time there is not enough police presence to protect private property, and citizens. It is time for the Governors to bring in their National Guard and if that isn't sufficient ask the President to send in the military.

At the present time there seems to be a problem hiring good LEO, and when that happens some bad apples will slip through the cracks.

 

[oldbadger]

I suspect neither one of us understood what the other was attempting to communicate.

The only way to stop the destruction of property, looting, attacking/shooting of private citizens shooting of LEO’s ,by the current herd of criminals is to show strong leadership. By this I mean taking firm positive action to stop the unlawful activities. By positive action I do not mean hoping the problem will go away. At this time there is not enough police presence to protect private property, and citizens. It is time for the Governors to bring in their National Guard and if that isn't sufficient ask the President to send in the military.

At the present time there seems to be a problem hiring good LEO, and when that happens some bad apples will slip through the cracks.

Ah ha!
So.... Like Trump, you want to dominate the situation with military force if the National Guard can't do it. Trump used that word, dominate.

Good luck with that.

 

[esmith]

Ah ha!
So.... Like Trump, you want to dominate the situation with military force if the National Guard can't do it. Trump used that word, dominate.

Good luck with that.

No, assist the National Guard and the police
Have the National Guard and military man (for a better word) barriers and allow the police to police the neighborhoods.

 

[oldbadger]

No, assist the National Guard and the police
Have the National Guard and military man (for a better word) barriers and allow the police to police the neighborhoods.

So you didn't think that the charged police officer should have the charge escalated to 2nd degree murder..... or the three that sided and abetted the killing to be charged...... that never occurred to you?

That is a good initial start..... pity that did not happen immediately on exposure of the film. Much of this trouble could have been reduced or stopped with justice-for-all.

You see....... it's not all about subduing people, it can be about clarity of justice for all.