tarasan
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I already did it!!! Jesus confirmed that Psalm 91 chapter was indeed speaking about him!!
For the Scripture say, "He will order His angels to protect and guard you"[luke 4:10]
He scripture where say? indeed Psalm 91
"And they will hold you up with their hands so you wont even hurt your foot on a stone"[luke 4:11]
Jesus responded, "The scripture ALSO SAY, you must not test the lord ur God"[Luke 4:12]
How satan referred to psalm 91 regarding the protection of Jesus?
How Jesus confirmed that Psalm 91 chapter was indeed speaking about him by saying "the scripture ALSO say"
Why Jesus used there "ALSO"
Example:
If anyone tell me," Shine your Father says, do not drink alcohol"
then if i reply him," My Father ALSO says do do eat Pork"
This mean I dont wanna agree with my Father what says do not drink alcohol??
No! No! This actual mean I am agree with both!!
So here we see Jesus was accepting psalm 91 as being about him by saying "ALSO"
Also the new testament, again, confirms that Psalm 91 is referring to Jesus christ.
My question: if Psalm91 really do not referred to Jesus Christ then Psalm 91 referred to whom?? We see there have too much prophecy about upcoming messiah.
You wanna tell psalm 91 chapter is an unfulfilled Prophecy?
"God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should chang his mind, Does he speak and then not act?Does he promise and not fulfill?"[Numbers 23:19]
Answer this question of God!
My Response about matthew 16:2:
Matthew 16:21 is clearly a doubtful verse!! Lets see few point:
1st point: Jesus commanded to his disciples for buy a sword. Cause he was preparing for a fight to against struggle which meaning he was not ready for sacrifice (as Jesus said he dont like sacrifice in Matthew 9:13, Do you think Jesus said lie?!)
and Also he dont wanna die.. So according to Luke 22:36, matthew obviously 16:21 is false..
"He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag, and if you dont have a SWORD, sell your cloak and bue one SWORD"[Luke 22:36]
My Question why Jesus commanded them to fight if he was ready for sacrifice and if he was sure about matthew 16:21??
2nd point: Jesus prayed to God and he was crying cause he dont wanna die:
"Saying, Father if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done"[Mark 22:42]
note: This cup is "the cup of death"
"Going a little farther, he feel with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will" [matthew 26:39]
"During the days of Jesus life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he(God) was heard because of his reverent submission"[Hebrews 5:7]
My Question if he was sure that he gonna die according to matthew 16:21-23 then why he prayed to God? Why he cried to God for help? We see God "Heard" his prayer. As before i already proved that "Heard" meaning God accepted His prayer..
"..The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeti much.."[James 5:16]
Jesus was a righteous man so his prayer obviouly strong...
Jesus himself said:
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto u; for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh finedeth, and to him who knocketh it shall opened. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?"[Matthew 7:7-10]
If all of Jesus prayer were accepted by God, including his prayer not to die on cross, how could he still die on the cross then?
Lets see another important point:
"The Lord upholds all those who fall and LIFTS UP ALL WHO ARE BOWED DOWN" [psalm 145:4]
"The Lord gives sight to be blind, the LORD LIFTS UP THOSE WHO ARE BOWED DOWN, the Lord Loves the righteous"[Psalm 146:8]
Jesus bowed down to God Almighty begging Him to save him from crucifixion read matthew 16:39
Note: According to Islam God LIFTS UP Jesus!!
"An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him"[Mark 22:43]
My Question why angel strengthened Jesus after his prayer?Even an angel said Jesus "was Alive"
"but didnt find Jesus body. They came and told us that they had seen a vision of angels, who said he was Alive" [Luke 24:23]
your bible have "Was Alive" which meaning Jesus not died in cross!!
God Almighty Saving His anointing King and saving those who take refuge in Him:
"Now i know that THE LORD SAVING HIS ANOINTED KING. HE ANSWERS HIM FROM HIS HOLY HEAVEN"[Psalm 20:6]
We come to know from Gospel that God answered Jesus by an angel from his Holy heaven
"An Angel from heaven appeared to Jesus and strengthened him"[luke 22:43]
"I Call to the Lord, who is worthy of praise, AND I AM SAVED FROM MY ENEMIES"[Psalm, 18:3]
"O Lord, see how my enemies persecute me! have mercy and LIFT ME UP FROM THE GATES OF DEATH"[psalm, 9:13]
****This is interesting to know that king David was NEVER KILLED BY HIS ENEMIES**
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So this is very clear in bible that God saved and LIFTS UP Jesus
ok your first point yes jesus was protected by God and we have biblical passages refering to that, however jesus constantly said in the NT that he was going to die and sacrifice himself.
For the sword question It was customary for a member of a part to have a sword, when there was a feast, the thing was that that man would sit closest to the door so that if attacks came in he would defend them it was customary, how do you account in teh garden when peter cuts off a person ear jesus Stopped Peter?
He would have accepted his Prayer but jesus at the end says that if this cup cannot be taken away then your will be done! he was accepting what he had to do at the end.
he was alive after he died for 3 days!!! your nit picking verses mate im very sorry but this isnt a very good case at all....