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Yup. Modern society is corrupted. Modern humans will misuse and misinterpret the old testament only to corrupt. the old testament has wisdom. modern humans are bloodthirst.
Yes. humans were cool before christianity. after christianity, they became bloodthirsty. that is why i dislike christianity (because it messes the head and jesus is a fiction character).Do you think humans (as a whole) were at one point not 'bloodthirsty'?
Yes. humans were cool before christianity. after christianity, they became bloodthirsty. that is why i dislike christianity (because it messes the head and jesus is a fiction character).
How does violence against violence solve a problem?
Modifying the thread's title....How does violence against violence solve a problem?
Personally I don't see how we could have stopped Hitler from dominating the world if we hadn't used violence to counter the violence he was perpetuating. In this case it certainly solved the problem of Nazi expansionism.
no, there are still nazis. it just checked them from trying to enslave the rest of the world into that belief systemStopped the Nazis, didn't it.
I think the question implies something, and I don't understand what.You think the Assyrians were...err...cool?
I think the question implies something, and I don't understand what.
Wikipedia is my friend, but am i missing something?
I don't think Assyrians were driven by bloodthirst.Just that you said humanity was cool before Christianity, bloodthirsty after it.
The Assyrian Empire was around well before Christianity and is fairly well renowned for their aggressive expansion and brutal repression of rebellion and dissent.
It's just an example, though, there are others.
Yet you still have neo-nazis and even some nazis that are still living
Some, sure, but without responding to the Nazis with violence, we would probably have no Jews or Roma.Yet you still have neo-nazis and even some nazis that are still living
I don't agree with anyone simply saying "it doesn't." This isn't accurate or representative of some circumstances we actually experience in reality at all.
When I was a kid I was bullied. There was a set of kids who would get off the bus at my stop and call me names, push me, throw things at me, etc. Well, one day, they kept egging one of them on to fight me, but he was a little guy, and I was larger, and the little guy didn't want to get involved, and neither did I, so nothing happened. Well, this little guy had a friend who felt that his inability to fight me was some kind of insult to their friendship, so he decided to fight me himself the next day. I wanted no part of it, but damned if I was just going to take the licks and crawl off somewhere to lick my wounds later. So I fought back. At one point he had me down on my back and was coming at me, and I kicked up off the ground and hit him hard in the chest and he bowled over. In another moment I had a handful of his hair a was beating on his head repeatedly. The fight dispersed when a neighbor came out from their house and scared all the others off. The kid went around telling everyone how he "won" the fight. But I obviously knew better - I had gotten some good, solid violence of my own in there and kept it fairly even, and he knew it. Which is why he never tried it again - and indeed stopped bullying me altogether. They all did.
Violence begets violence. Sometimes you have show someone that if they are willing to approach you with violence, then you are taking that as license to do the same. Just look at any interaction of violence in the animal kingdom. Does one of the animals EVER approach the situation in "peaceful protest?" Not that I know of or have seen. Many seem to think we are so much different - but our base understanding and mentality remains there, and understands that when someone reacts to our violence with more in return than we care to take, the best course is to back down. You can get people to back down. You can. To say "it doesn't work" is ridiculous, foolish even.
no, i'm suggesting physical force doesn't change much of anything; if you can't change the heart and mind. might doesn't make right but it can check it, or like a fire, keep it from getting out of control.Yet, if we HADN'T used violence during WWII then Nazi's would currently rule the world. Are you suggesting we would have been better off NOT fighting against Nazism?
no, i'm suggesting physical force doesn't change much of anything; if you can't change the heart and mind. might doesn't make right but it can check it, or like a fire, keep it from getting out of control.
being a fire starter is easy. fighting huge conflagrations/fires takes a lot of work
Yeah... ."imagine"Imagine living in a world where Nazism dominates everything,
I guess we have different definitions of what 'change much of anything' means. The use of violence by the Allies during WWII DRASTICALLY changed the course of history, in my opinion. Imagine living in a world where Nazism dominates everything, where all Jewish people have been exterminated - as well as a long list of other 'undesirables' - where Aryans have rights and everyone else is treated like lesser beings worthy of nothing more than slavery.