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StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
It would be illegal to "close the border" as well as inhumane. Take time to read up on how asylum-seeking works:
Is it legal to cross the U.S. border to seek asylum?
People arriving at the U.S. border have the legal right to request asylum without being criminalized, turned back or separated from their children.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That seems to be a yes and no answer to the question of presidential authority on the border."No, a president cannot completely shut down the border with an executive order. A full border closure would violate federal laws granting people the right to seek asylum."
No, the president can’t completely close the border via executive order
VERIFY readers asked if Biden can close the border with an executive order. Presidents have restricted who comes into the U.S., but those orders can only go so far.www.verifythis.com
“The Administration spent months negotiating in good faith to deliver the toughest and fairest bipartisan border security bill in decades because we need Congress to make significant policy reforms and to provide additional funding to secure our border and fix our broken immigration system,” White House spokesperson Angelo Fernández Hernández said in a statement.
“No executive action, no matter how aggressive, can deliver the significant policy reforms and additional resources Congress can provide and that Republicans rejected. We continue to call on Speaker Johnson and House Republicans to pass the bipartisan deal to secure the border,” he added."
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
It is mostly no since Trump was having the same problems but could not solve them either.
Thanks. Thought I’d stumbled into the outlandish claims forum.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
E.O.'s are limited in scope, so yes, he would need a bill much like Trump would, and yet the latter didn't get one passed to "solve" the problem either.
The fact remains that the Pubs and Dems had a bipartisan bill, and Trump said no to it for 100% political reasons. You can song & dance this all you want, but dats a fact, Jack.
Because closing the border would violate both American and international law.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
See my last post above.
Not to mention the damage it would do to the U.S. economy.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Especially as our economy keeps growing [don't tell the Pubs that though
], and so many businesses are in need of lower-level workers.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Nice photoshop.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Except for reinforcing the border wall, which the democrats in Congress opposed to the bitter end, making sure the illegal aliens continued to cross over.
source
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I am pretty sure that it is not. It looks like a picture of Trump from Playboy magazine.
EDIT: This is from People magazine. I will give you one guess where they got the photo from. Not the same photo, but somehow they photoshopped the same suit:
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
And that was pretty much a waste of money.
Laniakea
Not of this world
The Latest: Dems block Pentagon funding over border wall
Democrats opposing President Donald Trump's border wall demands have again blocked passage of a massive, almost $700 billion Pentagon funding measure.
Laniakea
Not of this world
It wouldn't have been if it had been allowed to be completed.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
How would you prove tat? People seem to scale it rather easily if they are young and fit. It would only have stopped refugees and they tend to use border crossings anyway.
Laniakea
Not of this world
So those people who assaulted National Guard and Border Patrol agents to storm the border aren't refugees after all?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I do not see any actual assault. I see pushing and shoving. It looks like their goal was to ask for refugee status. Did you keep listening? That was an illegal fence. Texas put it up. Do you need links on how refugees have rights according to not only international laws, but our laws? I can do so for you again if you wish.
You keep conflating refugees and run of the mill migrant workers.