OMG, Idav! Can you imagine where it will all end! Men fornicating with beasts! Women lusting after demons! No ketchup in sight for your fries! Even the gods will be stood on their heads! Run! Run, I say!
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They Are Coming For Your Guns!
- Thread starter esmith
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OMG, Idav! Can you imagine where it will all end! Men fornicating with beasts! Women lusting after demons! No ketchup in sight for your fries! Even the gods will be stood on their heads! Run! Run, I say!
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
So basically a watered down version of Raegan's ban? Are they suspending due process like Trump wants to do?
Of course since 18 year olds will not be able to hunt beasts and demons proper without a proper assault style weapon, we will be overrun!
Excellent. Great law. Warm applause.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Gelding or not it would not be feeling too much anyway once the flies start to hatch.No it was a gelding.
Whoops, did I use a word unknown to you?
esmith
Veteran Member
You know it is possible that a person purchased a firearm or was given one before you were 21You know technically you have to first own the gun for them to take it.
esmith
Veteran Member
Who was Raegan and what did he or she ban?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Let me just say that the OP is simply just hogwash.
According to our history with the courts on this, some weapons can and have been banned almost continuously through American history, and there has been no attempt whatsoever to have all guns banned.
So, the repeated disingenuous tactic we see by some is that if one opposes any gun being banned, then we're "anti-gun" and the cry "they're coming for our guns!" is bellowed out from under their rocks. That is nothing short of utter dishonesty.
According to our history with the courts on this, some weapons can and have been banned almost continuously through American history, and there has been no attempt whatsoever to have all guns banned.
So, the repeated disingenuous tactic we see by some is that if one opposes any gun being banned, then we're "anti-gun" and the cry "they're coming for our guns!" is bellowed out from under their rocks. That is nothing short of utter dishonesty.
If you'd read the OP carefully, it wasn't about the gun grabbers coming after "all" guns.
So be careful about histrionic accusations of being "disingenuous".
No it was a gelding.
Whoops, did I use a word unknown to you?
No, I did not. Learn something new each day.
cataway
Well-Known Member
what will the National Guard do ?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Sling shots?
esmith
Veteran Member
Military is exempt (which includes the National Guard)
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
It is that Reagan who Conservatives love to idolize, who specified the AK-47--and called it a "machine gun"--saying machines guns are not for sport, defense, or hunting and regular civilians shouldn't have them.Who was Raegan and what did he or she ban?
esmith
Veteran Member
I'm somewhat surprised in your response, it is as if you didn't read the bill.
Let's look where you have gone horribly wrong
1. They are not banning any firearms, they are simply saying that if you are under 21 you can not have in your possession or purchase certain items. That if you do have in your possession you must surrender them to someone 21 or over and if you do not you are in violation of the law. In addition if anyone sells any of these products to someone under 21 they are committing a felony. I hear you now saying, what's wrong with requiring said person to transfer the said items to someone in their family. What about the person who is say 20 years old and has in their possession one of the said items and has no family. What do they require them to do? Surrender it to the State, sell it to someone who probably will not give them fair market price, or be in violation of the law by retaining said item?
2. Question. If you are under 21 and say own a Ruger PC Carbine and other like firearms can you legally own it under this new law? The answer is no. So, is the State requiring you to surrender that firearm? The answer is Yes. So I would say using a coarse statement "they are coming for your guns" .
So I would say that your entire post is utter dishonesty. Or do you not agree that points 1 and 2 are correct?
esmith
Veteran Member
You do realize that the AK-47 is a fully automatic rifle. Yes it has been modified to be a semi-automatic rifle to comply with US laws governing fully automatic firearms.
However, your statement about President Reagan is not true, again showing that it is best to do ones research prior to making a statement.
However President Reagan did say, and I quote:
“I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense,” he said. “But I do believe that an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home.”
Oh by the way my source for the above is: Ronald Reagan on AK-47s
Again all persons make mistakes, including President Reagan. His mistake was calling the weapon used at the Purdy Cleveland Public School in Feb of 1989 a "machine gun". It was not, it was a semi-automatic rifle that was a version of the AK-47.
I know I will get called out for nitpicking. But being informed of facts to improve ones knowledge is not nitpicking.
However, it seems that there are those on both sides of the issue that need to improve ones knowledge.
I think RF needs a gun club, complete with lessons, loaners, & a very strict range officer.
This would improve the level of discussion.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Can we start with Nerf guns...you know, just to make sure who our friends are?
