How do you atheists manage to remain so oblivious to the harm of sin????
Humanists turn to their consciences to determine right and wrong. I'm not interested in what your religion teaches. Where its values disagree with mine, I'll go with mine.
And it seems to me that most of the people you are disagreeing with here are moral, upright people following their own consciences and deciding for themselves which judgments and acts cause harm, and mostly avoiding harming themselves or others and leading happy, productive lives. They don't want or need your advice. It doesn't seem to be making you happy.
Most of the recounting of history in the Bible is meant to have man appreciate his willful propensity to defiance and contempt for his Maker, of which I am extremely guilty of myself.
And there it is. One value of atheism is freedom from the bondage of religious doctrine like this.
Nothing worse than one who accuses someone of being wicked for denouncing wickedness - the tactics of the devil - how deceitful and corrupt.
Those are YOUR tactics. I find what this religion does to its most zealous adherents perverse, corrupt, and "wicked," and you will use such language against that judgment.
I'm trying to help you, for crying out loud.
You just wrote, "I sin all the time, in the most vile and perverse ways. I feel that I am wretched and that I am in dire need of a saviour." That other poster doesn't want or need your help, nor a savior. You seem to think YOU need help, so how are you going to help anybody else by dragging them into a similar mental state?
you are accountable; judgment is inevitable.
That's for you and others willing to believe what the priests and their book have told them to worry about.
"To the philosophy of atheism belongs the credit of robbing death of its horror and its terror. It brought about the abolition of Hell." - Joseph Lewis
I feel that you should be utterly ashamed of your ways
And this is how you want to help him? Isn't it you that should be ashamed of your ways? Maybe you are.
Once again, shame at being who one is is for the zealous Christian to experience, not him. He is free from the bonds of that religion, which has taught you self-loathing and would do the same to him were he to accept it.
He will judge himself by his own standards, not yours, and will likely continue to learn through trial-and-error how he wants to live and what kind of a person he wants to be. And he has every chance of living a satisfying and constructive life outside of your religion. I have. Your warnings that living in defiance of your god will lead to ruin and that happiness comes from submitting to it fall on deaf ears here. I've already falsified that claim. And so have you.
This is from atheist firebrand Pat Condell:
"It must be quite galling for religious people to see atheists like me going about their business without a shred of guilt or self-loathing, and not in the least inclined to pray or to do penance of any kind, and not in the slightest bit worried about any form of eternal punishment. I have to admit if I was religious, I'd probably think to myself: "How come I've got all this weight on my shoulders while these bums are getting a free ride?"
