The significance of 1844 in Bible Prophecy

[TransmutingSoul]

As we are now in the year 2017, the year 1844 seems to be now a distant past. In reality it is only recent History and the early to mid 1800's were a time of great expectation.

The world was starting to change rapidly in thought, technologies and science. Many signs that the Bible foretold were seen to be have fulfilled in one way and another. Added to this a William Miller a farmer in America had an amazing insight and had worked out from Daniel that 1843 to 1844 was the year of Christs Return. The day and hour yet to be known.

The way William Miller came to that conclusion is readily available on the net, so no need to post it here.

What William Miller had not known and what many other people do not know that 1844 also ties into the Book of Revelation. Using William Millers day for a year calculation we have the time of 1260 years written through out Revelation and an event the would take hold of the Holy Land for that period of time.

It was the religion of Muhammad that took hold of the Holy Land, so it must be that is the event Revelation talks about. The Muslim Faith had a Lunar calendar that started in AD622, the year AH1260 in the Muslim Calendar is the year AD1844.

We now have the two greatest Books of Prophecy, pointing to the same Date.

This chart shows the significance of 1844, 0r 1260.

So was the Great Disappointment, not a disappointment, but an event that happened that needed to be seen in a different way?

Regards To all Tony

 

[Faithofchristian]

As we are now in the year 2017, the year 1844 seems to be now a distant past. In reality it is only recent History and the early to mid 1800's were a time of great expectation.

The world was starting to change rapidly in thought, technologies and science. Many signs that the Bible foretold were seen to be have fulfilled in one way and another. Added to this a William Miller a farmer in America had an amazing insight and had worked out from Daniel that 1843 to 1844 was the year of Christs Return. The day and hour yet to be known.

The way William Miller came to that conclusion is readily available on the net, so no need to post it here.

What William Miller had not known and what many other people do not know that 1844 also ties into the Book of Revelation. Using William Millers day for a year calculation we have the time of 1260 years written through out Revelation and an event the would take hold of the Holy Land for that period of time.

It was the religion of Muhammad that took hold of the Holy Land, so it must be that is the event Revelation talks about. The Muslim Faith had a Lunar calendar that started in AD622, the year AH1260 in the Muslim Calendar is the year AD1844.

We now have the two greatest Books of Prophecy, pointing to the same Date.

This chart shows the significance of 1844, 0r 1260.

View attachment 19451

So was the Great Disappointment, not a disappointment, but an event that happened that needed to be seen in a different way?

Regards To all Tony

William Miller miss Christ Jesus return by not understanding the book of Revelation.
As many people do to day.

In the book of Revelation, God has given to know what is happening in that day and hour.
God has given in the book of Revelation the last Prophecy that happens, that when this last Prophecy happens Christ Jesus Returns.
Christ Jesus can not Return until this last Prophecy happens that God given in the book of Revelation happens first.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

William Miller miss Christ Jesus return by not understanding the book of Revelation.
As many people do to day.

In the book of Revelation, God has given to know what is happening in that day and hour.
God has given in the book of Revelation the last Prophecy that happens, that when this last Prophecy happens Christ Jesus Returns.
Christ Jesus can not Return until this last Prophecy happens that God given in the book of Revelation happens first.

What do you think that last Prophecy is?

Regards Tony

 

[Faithofchristian]

What do you think that last Prophecy is?

Regards Tony

It doesn't matter what I think.
What matters is what God has given in the book of Revelation what the last Prophecy is, that matters.

In Revelation Chapter 11, When God's two witnesses are killed and then after 3/12 days. God called them up to heaven.
Rev 11:11-14

Then the 7th Trumpet is sounded Christ Jesus Returns. Rev 11:15-18

This being the last Prophecy that God has given in the book of Revelation.

When the two witnesses are killed, this being the last Prophecy that brings Christ Jesus Return. This is what brings the Tribulation to an end.
People are being taught that Christ Jesus comes before the tribulation, This is a false teaching of man's.
Christ Jesus can not return until God's two witnesses are killed and are called back up to heaven.
Then the 7th Trumpet will sound then Christ Jesus Returns.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

It doesn't matter what I think.
What matters is what God has given in the book of Revelation what the last Prophecy is, that matters.

In Revelation Chapter 11, When God's two witnesses are killed and then after 3/12 days. God called them up to heaven.
Rev 11:11-14

Then the 7th Trumpet is sounded Christ Jesus Returns. Rev 11:15-18

This being the last Prophecy that God has given in the book of Revelation.

We could look at 3 and 1/2 days being 3 and 1/2 years when using the bible Prophecy formular for each day for a year, as William Miller did. This then is also the 42 Months and 1260 days talked about in Revelation. They are all saying for 1260 years events will happen that will hold sway over the Holy Land and in that year the promises are fulfilled.

Thus if this is the Year AD 1844, also being the year AH 1260, there must have been an event in that year that was missed.

The Bible did warn about Christ maybe coming like a thief in the Night.

Regards Tony

 

[Faithofchristian]

We could look at 3 and 1/2 days being 3 and 1/2 years when using the bible Prophecy formular for each day for a year, as William Miller did. This then is also the 42 Months and 1260 days talked about in Revelation. They are all saying for 1260 years events will happen that will hold sway over the Holy Land and in that year the promises are fulfilled.

Thus if this is the Year AD 1844, also being the year AH 1260, there must have been an event in that year that was missed.

The Bible did warn about Christ maybe coming like a thief in the Night.

Regards Tony

The day for a year, does not work, for the 3 and half days that God given in Revelation Chapter 11, the 3 and half days are literally 3 and half days
That's why it's Written in Verse 11, And after 3 days and an half the Spirit of God entered into them.

This being a literally 3 and half days.

Otherwise what your saying with the day for a year, that God's two witnesses already happen and the Tribulation already happen and the return of Christ Jesus already happen.
Therefore the 3 and half days, Are literally 3 and half days. And only happens at the end of the Tribulation.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

The day for a year, does not work, for the 3 and half days that God given in Revelation Chapter 11, the 3 and half days are literally 3 and half days
That's why it's Written in Verse 11, And after 3 days and an half the Spirit of God entered into them.

This being a literally 3 and half days.

Otherwise what your saying with the day for a year, that God's two witnesses already happen and the Tribulation already happen and the return of Christ Jesus already happen.
Therefore the 3 and half days, Are literally 3 and half days. And only happens at the end of the Tribulation.

Yes it all has happened is what is being said. In the main post you will see the time lines of how it was fulfilled.

In Australia it is now late. Have a great Saturday, mine is ending.

Regards Tony

 

[Faithofchristian]

Yes it all has happened is what is being said. In the main post you will see the time lines of how it was fulfilled.

In Australia it is now late. Have a great Saturday, mine is ending.

Regards Tony

Ok, Let's for say, that a day for a year works for the 3 an half days,Ok

So if we take the 3 an half days, a day for a year method.
That would mean that God's two witnesses would be laying out in the street for 3 an half years

Have you any idea what would be left of those bodies after 3 an half years of laying out in the streets

That like taking the 3 days and 3 nights that Christ Jesus was in tomb a day for a year formula.
Therefore the 3 an half days, are literally 3 an half days. And not 3 an half years.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

As we are now in the year 2017, the year 1844 seems to be now a distant past. In reality it is only recent History and the early to mid 1800's were a time of great expectation.

The world was starting to change rapidly in thought, technologies and science. Many signs that the Bible foretold were seen to be have fulfilled in one way and another. Added to this a William Miller a farmer in America had an amazing insight and had worked out from Daniel that 1843 to 1844 was the year of Christs Return. The day and hour yet to be known.

The way William Miller came to that conclusion is readily available on the net, so no need to post it here.

What William Miller had not known and what many other people do not know that 1844 also ties into the Book of Revelation. Using William Millers day for a year calculation we have the time of 1260 years written through out Revelation and an event the would take hold of the Holy Land for that period of time.

It was the religion of Muhammad that took hold of the Holy Land, so it must be that is the event Revelation talks about. The Muslim Faith had a Lunar calendar that started in AD622, the year AH1260 in the Muslim Calendar is the year AD1844.

We now have the two greatest Books of Prophecy, pointing to the same Date.

This chart shows the significance of 1844, 0r 1260.

View attachment 19451

So was the Great Disappointment, not a disappointment, but an event that happened that needed to be seen in a different way?

Regards To all Tony

Well, the events in Revelation already happened.

The start of the 1000 year reign referrs to the Byzantine empire.

The reign started with the destruction of the western Roman Empire by the visigoths in the early 400s. But the great beast died with Attila the Hun in the year 453, who died in bedwith a Goth princess, killed by a nosebleed. This signals the final end, and the rise of Constantinople as the seat of God's throne.

This reign between God and man lasted exactly 1000 years. Then, in 1453, the Turks invaded, and it too cane to an end.

God's 1000 reign: 453-1453 AD.

RIP.

Revelation isn't prophecy anymore, it's history, the way we see the books of Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles as the history of Israel and Judeah. God's final plan was executed, and there is no more prophecy to look forward to anymore. No more codes, no more dates. The appointed time came and went. Those who ascended, did so. Those who didn't . . . Well, that's us.

For the rest of us, time still moved forward, lost to the dustbin. We, finally free from the yoke of God's law, moved forward and made a better existence for ourselves.

One of our first inventions happened as God's empire in Constantinople crumbled. . . The Printing Press, a tool for the spread of information, signaled the beginning of a new time with God in our rearview mirror.

The Renaissance, and technology, followed. With it of course, the psychic remnant of God and his dark kingdom, his yoke of blood and sacrifice we call religion. But we're shedding it, step by step. . First with the reformation, then with modern scientific inquiry, then with the internet (the ultimate printing press).

I thank God every day for finally ending his plan and letting us go to live our own lives without his insane requirements and narcissistic need for sacrifice and worship. Good bye God!

We never lived in a world where you were actually here (that would have been a nightmare), but I do appreciate the neglected rind of earth you left behind!

 

[David T]

As we are now in the year 2017, the year 1844 seems to be now a distant past. In reality it is only recent History and the early to mid 1800's were a time of great expectation.

The world was starting to change rapidly in thought, technologies and science. Many signs that the Bible foretold were seen to be have fulfilled in one way and another. Added to this a William Miller a farmer in America had an amazing insight and had worked out from Daniel that 1843 to 1844 was the year of Christs Return. The day and hour yet to be known.

The way William Miller came to that conclusion is readily available on the net, so no need to post it here.

What William Miller had not known and what many other people do not know that 1844 also ties into the Book of Revelation. Using William Millers day for a year calculation we have the time of 1260 years written through out Revelation and an event the would take hold of the Holy Land for that period of time.

It was the religion of Muhammad that took hold of the Holy Land, so it must be that is the event Revelation talks about. The Muslim Faith had a Lunar calendar that started in AD622, the year AH1260 in the Muslim Calendar is the year AD1844.

We now have the two greatest Books of Prophecy, pointing to the same Date.

This chart shows the significance of 1844, 0r 1260.

View attachment 19451

So was the Great Disappointment, not a disappointment, but an event that happened that needed to be seen in a different way?

Regards To all Tony

yes the bible is camaflauged to all but those who see clearly.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Well, the events in Revelation already happened.

The start of the 1000 year reign referrs to the Byzantine empire.

The reign started with the destruction of the western Roman Empire by the visigoths in the early 400s. But the great beast died with Attila the Hun in the year 453, who died in bedwith a Goth princess, killed by a nosebleed. This signals the final end, and the rise of Constantinople as the seat of God's throne.

This reign between God and man lasted exactly 1000 years. Then, in 1453, the Turks invaded, and it too cane to an end.

God's 1000 reign: 453-1453 AD.

RIP.

Revelation isn't prophecy anymore, it's history, the way we see the books of Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles as the history of Israel and Judeah. God's final plan was executed, and there is no more prophecy to look forward to anymore. No more codes, no more dates. The appointed time came and went. Those who ascended, did so. Those who didn't . . . Well, that's us.

For the rest of us, time still moved forward, lost to the dustbin. We, finally free from the yoke of God's law, moved forward and made a better existence for ourselves.

One of our first inventions happened as God's empire in Constantinople crumbled. . . The Printing Press, a tool for the spread of information, signaled the beginning of a new time with God in our rearview mirror.

The Renaissance, and technology, followed. With it of course, the psychic remnant of God and his dark kingdom, his yoke of blood and sacrifice we call religion. But we're shedding it, step by step. . First with the reformation, then with modern scientific inquiry, then with the internet (the ultimate printing press).

I thank God every day for finally ending his plan and letting us go to live our own lives without his insane requirements and narcissistic need for sacrifice and worship. Good bye God!

We never lived in a world where you were actually here (that would have been a nightmare), but I do appreciate the neglected rind of earth you left behind!

So if to what you say is right, that those events in Revelation already happened.

So are you saying that Christ Jesus has already come and is here and God's kingdom is here on earth.

All because those events in Revelation takes place just before the second coming of Christ Jesus. And the kingdom of God happens after Christ Jesus has come.to establish the kingdom of God here on earth.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

So if to what you say is right, that those events in Revelation already happened.

So are you saying that Christ Jesus has already come and is here and God's kingdom is here on earth.

All because those events in Revelation takes place just before the second coming of Christ Jesus. And the kingdom of God happens after Christ Jesus has come.to establish the kingdom of God here on earth.
Can you explain in Revelation 9:3 who or what the Locust army is ?

He came in 453 and left in 1453.

The locust army referrs to the Visigoths.

Visigoths - Wikipedia

Locusts have two conditions:

1. Movement in a horde in the absence of food.

2. Settling to feed in the presence of food.

Just like the Visigoth were migratory until they conquered Rome. There they settled.

The power of scorpions refers to several advances. First, their weapons were similar to Rome itself. They also used a superior armor, and scorpions are as dangerous as other stinging insects, they just have better armor.

Lamellar armour - Wikipedia

Anything else?

 

[Faithofchristian]

He came in 453 and left in 1453.

The locust army referrs to the Visigoths.

Visigoths - Wikipedia

Locusts have two conditions:

1. Movement in a horde in the absence of food.

2. Settling to feed in the presence of food.

Just like the Visigoth were migratory until they conquered Rome. There they settled.

The power of scorpions refers to several advances. First, their weapons were similar to Rome itself. They also used a superior armor, and scorpions are as dangerous as other stinging insects, they just have better armor.

Lamellar armour - Wikipedia

Anything else?

So what happened to the God's kingdom to be established here on earth ?

It's Written that at the second coming of Christ, We all are to be changed from this body of flesh to the Spirit body.
So why am I still in this body of flesh and blood?

 

[Kuzcotopia]

So what happened to the God's kingdom to be established here on earth ?

It's Written that at the second coming of Christ, We all are to be changed from this body of flesh to the Spirit body.
So why am I still in this body of flesh and blood?

You were. God reigned over the flesh, according to scripture. Everything about God as dto subjugate the flesh. From 453-1453, his reign over the flesh was absolute.

But once he and Jesus left, we were given command over our own flesh, and once we had that command, the marvels of the Renaissance began to appear. The Spirit refers to our own minds, and the products of our own credulity and ingenuity.

You're just misreading it. We are not Spirit because God turned us into Spirit. We're Spirit because we've been given the freedom to reform the social and technological world to our liking.

The world is ours. . . No God's rule or prophecies apply.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

yes the bible is camaflauged to all but those who see clearly.
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What is it you clearly see?

Regards Tony

 

[David T]

What is it you clearly see?

Regards Tony

I have no idea!!! Although I might say your calculations might not be right. Just a guess.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

So what happened to the God's kingdom to be established here on earth ?

It's Written that at the second coming of Christ, We all are to be changed from this body of flesh to the Spirit body.
So why am I still in this body of flesh and blood?

Consider that Christ said we could be born again in the Flesh and to be Born again is the recognition of Christ. Thus we can be connected to our Spiritual Self, while we live this life and when God takes this life, we are our Spiritual Body born alive through Faith into all the worlds of God.

To be alive in this day is to accept that Christ has returned in His promissed "New Name", that Name is Baha'u'llah (Translated as "Glory of God", or "Glory of the Lord")

Just as in the day Christ, we are Dead if we do not accept Him, we are Dead now, if we do not see Christs return in the "Glory of God". Baha'u'llah

The Kingdom is being built as we speak, the Law does go out from Zion and Carmel and Sharon have witnesed the "Glory of God" All Nations now flow up the Mountain of the Lord and learn war no more.

Christ prays that we have Eyes to see and Ears to hear what the Spirit says unto the churches.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I have no idea!!! Although I might say your calculations might not be right. Just a guess. View attachment 19485

Well Baha'u'llah has explained this clearly.

Yes the Holy Books of God are not easy to understand and consider that no worthy goal is acheived without effort, thus the most great goal must take the most great effort.

Happy to answer any question you may have, I can source the answer from the Baha'i Writings.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

All because those events in Revelation takes place just before the second coming of Christ Jesus. And the kingdom of God happens after Christ Jesus has come.to establish the kingdom of God here on earth.

This is where the Law goes out from Zion, this is where all nations flow up the Mountain of The Lord;

aerial photo of universal house of justice haifa - Google Search:

Regards Tony

 

[Faithofchristian]

Consider that Christ said we could be born again in the Flesh and to be Born again is the recognition of Christ. Thus we can be connected to our Spiritual Self, while we live this life and when God takes this life, we are our Spiritual Body born alive through Faith into all the worlds of God.

To be alive in this day is to accept that Christ has returned in His promissed "New Name", that Name is Baha'u'llah (Translated as "Glory of God", or "Glory of the Lord")

Just as in the day Christ, we are Dead if we do not accept Him, we are Dead now, if we do not see Christs return in the "Glory of God". Baha'u'llah

The Kingdom is being built as we speak, the Law does go out from Zion and Carmel and Sharon have witnesed the "Glory of God" All Nations now flow up the Mountain of the Lord and learn war no more.

Christ prays that we have Eyes to see and Ears to hear what the Spirit says unto the churches.

Regards Tony

Christ Jesus said --"Verily,verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God"
John 3:5.

What does Christ mean by born of water and of the Spirit ?