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The 'great nothing', vs heaven or hell: which is better?

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
Has it dawned on you yet that you have no idea what you are talking about ?

Embrace that fact, and start again. Do some real research. Talk to people humbly now that you realise you know 2/3 of sweet f*** all.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Has it dawned on you yet that you have no idea what you are talking about ?

Embrace that fact, and start again. Do some real research. Talk to people humbly now that you realise you know 2/3 of sweet f*** all.
You haven't even provided a definition for religion.
 

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
Hare Krishnaism, is theistic, the very definition of theistic.

Anything else?

Yeah. ‘Hare Krishnaism’ is Vaishnava, Bhakti, one of the many forms of Hinduism. It sits between advaita and dvaita. ‘Acintya bedaabeda tattva’ - which means ‘ inconceivably the same and different’

Do you know any others ?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
You’re kidding.
The whole creation constantly suffers pain, illness, death, grief, hopelessness, madness, war, hunger, hatred and loneliness.
How the hell is that God's fault?

I will remind you that the whole creation also experiences joy and happiness, love and companionship with other humans. That is the state of most humans, so in spite of suffering, pain and illness, most people are not depressed. Otherwise more people would be committing suicide.

So you cannot say God is evil based upon pain and suffering because then you have to explain why there is so much joy and happiness, among the majority of humans.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Yeah. ‘Hare Krishnaism’ is Vaishnava, Bhakti, one of the many forms of Hinduism. It sits between advaita and dvaita. ‘Acintya bedaabeda tattva’ - which means ‘ inconceivably the same and different’

Do you know any others ?

Define religion, first. You brought it up.
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Escape fantasy.
Understandable, but it just makes things worse.
It is reality, and there is a lot of evidence, not only from scriptures but from mediums who have communicated with spirits. The messages coming through are not precise because it is not easy to explain what exists in a spiritual world that is so different from this world, but what comes through is close enough to have a general idea.

Why would it make things worse to know what awaits us on the other side? I generally do not take trips without a lot of preparation. I think the worst thing is not knowing and then being caught off guard. That could last for days, weeks or years in earth time. It is better to know something even if it is not precise than to know nothing at all.

God wanted us to know that there is an afterlife, and that is why it was revealed in scriptures. He did not tell us much about it though.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
As a side note, there are different ways of actually not saying anything:
[Example:
'Lucifer isn't one Being, it's a concept'.

Now, at first read, it seems like what is being said, is,
[LUCIFER isn't a being
[LUCIFER is merely a concept.

Note that, actually neither of these ideas, can be attributed to the statement, about Lucifer.

Lucifer can be a Being, with shared persona, luciferians. Lucifer can be a concept, while also being a Being, and, even a Being, with the shared persona, [[like a type of possession.
 
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Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
The 'great nothing', vs heaven or hell: which is better?

Interesting...nothing is "great" but heaven and hell are not. Hmmmm
 
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