Yes.… There is some overlap.
E.g. they both have a personified Deity (Daoism the ‘Mother’; Christianity the ‘Father’).
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Yes.… There is some overlap.
The character 道 (Tao) is not necessarily related to Daoism. ‘Tao’ is a conceptual term used by all schools of thought (Tao, the Way, as image suggesting how things actually exist).
The character 道 (Tao) predates Taoism.I disagree The concept of the 道 (Tao in Chinese culture relates back to the writings of Taoism and the Tao Te Ching. The concept of the Way of the Tao is rooted in Taoism.
I just saw it on 道 - WiktionaryMany Chinese Bibles translate Logos (John 1) as Tao. ...
The character 道 (Tao) predates Taoism.
道 - Wiktionary
I meant overlap of meaning in "Logos" and "Tao".Yes.
E.g. they both have a personified Deity (Daoism the ‘Mother’; Christianity the ‘Father’).
Yes.
E.g. they both have a personified Deity (Daoism the ‘Mother’; Christianity the ‘Father’).
The character 道 (Tao) predates Taoism.
道 - Wiktionary
The character itself may be older it is not clear how the character was used. As far as the reference it may have had mundane meanings such as; explain, talk about, or road.
Righto, thanks for letting me know. Yes that I agree with.I meant overlap of meaning in "Logos" and "Tao".
Taoism does not have a personified deity. …
… The use of metaphors such as 'mother' is symbolic of the attributes of the Tao, which as noted has attributes of both male and female.
In Christianity the use of ‘Father’ is also a metaphor. By analogy you then also see the Christian God as not a personified Deity.Taoism does not have a personified deity. The use of metaphors such as 'mother' is symbolic of the attributes of the Tao, which as noted has attributes of both male and female.
… The view in the Orient for the Tao range from simply the unknown to a Deistic view to a Theistic view of the Source.
The character 道 (Tao) is not necessarily related to Daoism. ‘Tao’ is a conceptual term used by all schools of thought (Tao, the Way, as image suggesting how things actually exist).
. . . The Tao in the symbol Yin and Yang do represent the balance between male and female. No in Taoism the Tao is not uniquely anything and it is described. 'If some claims to know the Tao it is not the Tao.‘Mother’ is uniquely female; it clearly does not represent “both male and female”.
that was my initial statement
. . . The Tao in the symbol Yin and Yang do represent the balance between male and female. No in Taoism the Tao is not uniquely anything and it is described. 'If some claims to know the Tao it is not the Tao.
. . . but you persist in insisting that the Tao is the personification of the Mother…
… They only demonstrate the existence of the character, which very likely had more mundane definitions referred to in the reference. …
The following quote shows that the use of ‘Tao’ as “the right way to live and organize society”, predates the writing of the Tao Te Ching.
From:
‘What is it like to be a philosopher’ Interview with Bryan van Norden
What Is It Like to Be a Philosopher?
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... about the meaning of the Chinese term “dao,”
usually translated as “Way.” You see, in its earliest use “dao” refers to a path or road,
and then by an obvious metaphorical extension it comes to mean a “way” of doing something, especially the right way to live and organize society.
By metonymy it then comes to refer to a linguistic account of a way, or the right way, to do something.
Now, eventually “dao” also comes to refer to some sort of metaphysical entity that is responsible for both the way the universe is and the way it ought to be.
However, there was a fad a few years ago of people arguing that “dao” never referred to a metaphysical entity in the seminal period when Confucianism and Daoism first originated. I knew this revisionist claim was obviously false, and so I did a search of occurrences of the expression in early texts, and I noticed something particularly interesting about the use of the term in
passage 25 of the Daodejing:
There is a thing that is amorphous yet complete,
Born before Heaven and Earth.
Still! Alone!
Standing alone and unchanging,
Going everywhere without being in danger.
It can be considered the mother of Heaven and Earth.
I do not know its name.
I bestow upon it the courtesy name of “Way.”
This passage settles the issue that was under debate because it unambiguously identifies the Way as a cosmogonic principle that existed before and created the physical universe (“Heaven and Earth”).
However, it is also interesting because it states that there is no “name” for this entity, so the author bestows upon it the “courtesy name” of the “Way.” A “courtesy name” (zi, also called a “style”) is a polite name you use to address someone whom you are not on familiar terms with.
Consequently, this passage records the origin of the appropriation of the term “Way” to refer to this metaphysical principle that is “the mother of Heaven and Earth.”
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If as you say, “If some claims to know the Tao it is not the Tao”,
then your claim, “The Tao … represent the balance between male and female”
is not the Tao.