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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by firedragon, Aug 19, 2021.

  1. firedragon

    firedragon Veteran Member

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    This is opinion.

    There is an old Indian classic about a guy called Mahawshadha and his opposing kings adviser called Kewatta. There was a war, and the story about Kewatta's war strategy is famous. Some time ago there were two telecommunication companies in the U.S, Ma bell and AT&T. Ma Bell was a smaller company but they gathered their market following this same strategy. This is such a big story that even in marketing it can be adopted.

    So Kewatta's strategy was to go to smaller kingdom, tell them that we will annihilate you if you dont submit to us and give us your power, but if you submit, you are not plundered and you are all good. You live, we are just a little more powerful. So they go on doing this with all the kingdoms in the region, one at a time. Small to big. If you understand this methodology, this is exactly what the Taliban did.

    Can you blame the U.S and Biden for this ultimate aftermath? Not so sure about that. I think they had to leave eventually, some day. Blaming game or not, one has to acknowledge what took place on ground. In the country, the Taliban is known to bring peace and that's exactly what they did earlier after the Russian departure. They bring peace and stability, but not prosperity and freedom. This has been their legacy, and those people who thought the new Afghan regime were all good in terms of freedom, there was war, bombs here and there, and corruption everywhere. Thus, the peasant type's who yearned for stability and freedom put their hand in the left and right hands of the Taliban. Done and dusted. This will never mean freedom. Maybe to some, but not to all. This is very well known. The Taliban played their game very well and the rest of the world watched TV and made their own juices based on the cordial provided therein.

    The conspiracies behind the Opium, the oil pipe, and the trillions spent on the drain are all super tools to use for pleasure, but none of these bring anything to fruition now.

    Nevertheless, I would like to understand what you thing would be the next step. What can anyone do? I will truly appreciate your valuable insights and feedback.

    Peace.
     
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  2. Rival

    Rival Dex Me Gart
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    These people must have a very different definition of peace to me.
     
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  3. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    It's peaceful when you're dead.
     
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    IMO:
    They submit others to them, like in the Indian anecdote. Anecdotes are useful to know 'what to do' (change by Love), or as in this case 'what not to do' (submit by threat), being in the year 2021

    Hitler tried something similar, all submit to Hitler

    I am glad Hitler finally was made to submit to a much humaner cause
     
  5. firedragon

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    Then you have not understood people.
     
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    Unbelievably misunderstood and completely missed the point of the post as expected.
     
  7. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle Silent Generation - so don't expect much
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    Isn't the main issue here that one can't easily fast-forward a culture that is mainly patriarchal and misogynistic, and expect such to be shoe-horned into our concepts of the modern democratic society? And especially so when the major belief system of said country is one that tends to encompass all aspects of life like Islam. Hence a struggle that is not easily won without giving up several things that tend to make up the lives of so many. Besides all the tribal bit. it took many other countries a lot longer than a few decades to achieve such.
     
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    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    Indeed. An army of occupation won't fix it. People have just died falling off a plane they were holding on to, trying to escape the returning Dark Age.
     
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    So whats your suggestion?
     
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    You never know if occupation fixes things or not. It may fix a lot of things, and it also may open a new load of garbage. Its not so simple.
     
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    The world could try to live in peace with the Taliban if that is possible.
     
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  12. firedragon

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    That maybe possible if the Taliban rents out the pipe. But still, they may crack peace with one country by doing that, then the other country will try to bomb them for it, while another country will try to fund them to fight the bombers, and it might end up in shambles all over again.

    All that being said and done, you maybe right. the question is how.
     
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  13. Mock Turtle

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    I don't really have one. There will always be fundamentalists who will want what the Taliban apparently want, and hence will move from place to place to advance their objectives. The Taliban might be in power for who knows how long, and it might be purely down to this objective of so many just dying out that changes things. One can only hope that the Taliban realise that they will gain more than they lose by giving greater freedoms and choices to females.
     
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  14. firedragon

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    Great. Thanks.
     
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    Running to green power as fast as possible will lessen the power that the fossil fuel countries have.
    There is no quick solution imo.
    It would have been a great opportunity to get rid of Taliban leaders by bombing the Afghanistan Parliament while they were all there. :)
    Would it have changed anything? Maybe not.
     
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    That won't change anything Brian. The Taliban is not a group dominated by a group, its a rite of passage outsiders dont even try to understand.
     
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    I agree

    Then you have not understood @Rival
     
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    Your reply was expected
     
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  19. firedragon

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    Nice. Thanks.
     
  20. stvdv

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    Thank you too for your nice reply

    And also thanks for your informative OP
     
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