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Split a piece of wood and I am there, Lift a stone and you will find me
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Milton Platt
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Symbols have the meanings humans give them.
Mark Cybulski
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Lets just end this post now then, no further comments needed.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
It is referring to the underlying oneness of all that is, when you truly know what and who you are, you go beyond identification with the body (which is not what and who you are btw). So when considering the sky, birds are already there, consider who you are, you are already known, consider spiritual light, you will be aware you are illumined.
The apparent cryptic way of most of the sayings dealing with the esoteric nature of true understanding of one's own being is because what is trying to be conveyed is that truth is forever on the other side of the verbal explanation. Spiritual truth is beyond the human mind's ability to apprehend through thought processes.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
And every else that exists, that's what omnipresence means....
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7
Audie
Veteran Member
You do know that you guys just make this sh** up, right?
Like, you are self aware and all?
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
So you are an atheist, I get it, you can't get what is being said. So why do you torture yourself coming to threads such as this and reading and commenting (and disrespectful ones at that) on comments you can't believe are credible. Just accept that people are not equal, and be at peace.
Shad
Veteran Member
The verse is about omnipresent which is part of classical God and pantheism
In the movie 'Stigmata' this passage from the Gospel of Thomas was written on a piece of paper by an atheist possessed by a deceased priest who was a stigmatic.
Mark Cybulski
Member
The markings on the wood aren't perhaps Hebrew or Aramaic, they look awful similar...................
Just James
New Member
That which is True is always True. What is True is Eternal. True is a quantum of Truth. Truth does not change. It is Outside of Time. It is where everything that is True has a place. It contains Everything that is True. If you are True, it contains you. The ‘Soul’. And you will be known. You will be a person of light (Truth). The Light inside you is the True-self. But you now have more than one self, and you are divided. You are no longer only True.
Put like this: the creatures do no ‘right or wrong’, they only ‘do’ True. . They are incapable of ‘evil’. They are incapable of ‘good’.
The little children are same. Thus they cannot ‘sin’. They are True.
The creatures have no ego. Instead they have a Soul.
To ‘enter’ the Kingdom, you must be True. Whole. Undivided. Like the little children. Seek until you find. And if you come to know yourself, you will find you are already in The Kingdom. You will become more like him and he will become more like you. He is True. True is the Way. Not right and not wrong. Thus your leaders cannot tell you in which direction is The Kingdom. They can only tell the herd. And the herd will proceed you because you will all be the same. Instead of all being uniquely True. So be you. Be True. That’s all you need to do.
74x12
Well-Known Member
What if it's just 44 and the stem of the first 4 has nearly vanished?
Mark Cybulski
Member
This link says it is literally true to the person who questioned it in the first page.
Guardians of Darkness
it is similar to aramaic lettering
Ayin - Wikipedia
Lamedh - Wikipedia
Zayin - Wikipedia
Guardians of Darkness
it is similar to aramaic lettering
Ayin - Wikipedia
Lamedh - Wikipedia
Zayin - Wikipedia
Roshiem Pegues
New Member
Jesus said, "It is I who am the light (that presides) over all. It is I who am the entirety: it is from me that the entirety has come, and to me that the entirety goes. Split a piece of wood: I am there. Lift a stone, and you (plur.) will find me there."
It's saying the one true lives in everything. Everything is connected. Verse 50 says..
If they say to you, " where did you come from?" Say to them, 'we came from the light, the place where the light came into being on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their image." If they say to you, ' is it you?' Say, " we are It's children, we are the elect of the living Father.' That passage you are referring to is from the movie Stigmata I've read the gospel of Thomas plenty of times most of Jesus saying was secret he taught what Hindu teaches except Hindu has 333,000 manifestations of god and Jesus teaches of one and only one father the true hidden God that lives in everything
It's saying the one true lives in everything. Everything is connected. Verse 50 says..
If they say to you, " where did you come from?" Say to them, 'we came from the light, the place where the light came into being on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their image." If they say to you, ' is it you?' Say, " we are It's children, we are the elect of the living Father.' That passage you are referring to is from the movie Stigmata I've read the gospel of Thomas plenty of times most of Jesus saying was secret he taught what Hindu teaches except Hindu has 333,000 manifestations of god and Jesus teaches of one and only one father the true hidden God that lives in everything
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Mark Cybulski
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Please be true.........
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
That saying is for Mystics to Contemplate. That saying is found in the Gnostic Gospels. It is Impossible to Understand Without the study of the Holy Scriptures/Bible.
Nag Hammadi library
The Nag Hammadi library (also known as the "Chenoboskion Manuscripts" and the "Gnostic Gospels"[a]) is a collection of early Christian and Gnostic texts discovered near the Upper Egyptian town of Nag Hammadi in 1945.
Nag Hammadi library - Wikipedia
Elihoenai
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Matthew 2:15
15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
You Find Yeshua/Jesus when Come Out Of Egypt. Elohim/God Must Reveal to you what it means to Come Out Of Egypt. There is an Esoteric and Exoteric meaning.
Ebionite
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Omnipresence isn't a quality of the deity of Abraham.
And Cain went out from the presence of YHWH, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Genesis 4:16
Mark Cybulski
Member
Stigmata - Wikipedia
Guardians of Darkness
Guardians of Darkness dedicated to enlightment in the eastern esoteric traditions and the dark doctrines
www.guardiansofdarkness.org
"When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."
When it says this, surely it must have a link to having dissociative identity disorder in that when you know yourself then you will be know but if you do not know yourself then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty.
Other sayings from the Gospel of Thomas 114 must have a link to what im putting across here aswell.
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
Ephesians 4:6
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Yes, certainly Elohim/God is Everything and Everywhere Being Omni. Elohim/God Manifests in Different Ways to Different People. To certain people Elohim/God Manifests as One, Trinity or Pantheon.