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Spiritual by defult

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Electra, Jan 12, 2018.

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  2. Spitirual

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  3. Both

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  1. Electra

    Electra l'attendue

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    I have just recently made a very nice switch.

    I came across a simple question, as we've stated above ^^.

    I was once identified as religious, turning into both, to identifying as spiritual, now as I was looking at the question.

    I am neither, as I believe everything is spiritual, so how can I define myself as a 'spiritual person'
    that's like saying 'lentil - da'al, t.v - television, hot - boiling water.

    It adds nothing new to the object at hand?

    I have slowly been embodying this but have only just realised that I have come so far.

    What do you identify with? how does this help your life?
     
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  2. allfoak

    allfoak Alchemist

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    Labels are detrimental to one's growth.
     
  3. Electra

    Electra l'attendue

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    Agree, it is funny how many labels we pick up to try and function in this world.

    It is a slow process to embody this. Nothing with the potential of Everything.
     
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  4. YmirGF

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    I am. I feel no need to label the ineffable and unlimited nature of being.
     
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  5. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Insanity of the Artist

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    I'm neither. I'm not religious because I'm not good at routine and discipline. I love religious life. Not my match though.

    I'm not spiritual. I don't have a knack for religions that are abstract. What is love and hate? If I had no experience with love by physical interaction with the world its just a label for a foreign experience that could be anything. I can't hate. I dislike behavior but I keep myself from news etc because there is no use to experience hate when you can control the trigger.

    I'm an artist. I am religious out of freedom of expression and art. I'm spiritual by means these things define my sanity. Its not disciplined and not in itself abstract.

    I'm neither.
     
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  6. David T

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    Nice. Sort of discovering it's just who you are rather than trying to be a something.. That's how I am. I play music it's a good place to express for me. To many people writing books and telling everyone how to be like them in Context to the topic "spirituality" That's nonsense really no matter what. To many guru experts with zero talent except marketing. Like horrid music and poetry in one place!!!
     
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    Why? Doesn't it make more sense to put the word "might be" or "sometimes" in there?
     
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    "Everything that came from the perishable will perish, since it came from the perishable. But whatever came from imperishableness does not perish but becomes imperishable. So, many men went astray because they had not known this difference and they died."

    Mary said to him: "Lord, then how will we know that?"

    The perfect Savior said: "Come (you) from invisible things to the end of those that are visible, and the very emanation of Thought will reveal to you how faith in those things that are not visible was found in those that are visible, those that belong to Unbegotten Father. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear!- Sophia of Jesus Christ

    Perish is in the Bible 156 times. Imperish, not once.

    Understanding the difference has made my life a blessing beyond what I ever expected.
     
  9. allfoak

    allfoak Alchemist

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    one can say whatever they please or use any label they want if they understand what they are doing.
    Many do not.
    I label myself as an alchemist but it is only for this msg board.
    While I use many of the alchemist's tools and methods, it is only for the purpose of growth.
    I use many other methods and concepts to achieve my goal, which can be confusing to those who do not understand the limits of labels.
     
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  10. Srivijaya

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    I chose spiritual but not because I identify with it or label myself that way, it just seems to be a default in my character. Religions are managed by unrealized beings and thus always distort the truth in some way. So I tend to keep them at a distance only taking what I need from the source scriptures, when I need it.

    It's not like I'm permanently spiritual either. I can be worldly as well, it's just that I don't seem to 'live it' the way others do. I've never been able to see material things as anything more than temporary and I can't feel driven by the incentive of acquiring them.

    This has often lead to accusations of a lack of ambition on my part but without that drive and sense of satisfaction behind materialism, what can I do about it, apart from go through the motions just to get by?

    I'm very content with the path I have found and it has helped my life on numerous occasions but in a quiet understated way. It provides a counterweight to the materialism I'm surrounded with and has answered questions I have always found compelled to ask, and it's provided me with much insight.
     
  11. SalixIncendium

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    While those qualifiers can be helpful, in my experience, applying a label to one's beliefs creates a boundary and limits what one can potentially know while operating within of the confines of said label.

    But then again, labels are useful in communicating to others what one believes. Labels are fine so long as they are used with the intent of remaining open to new information.
     
  12. Epic Beard Man

    Epic Beard Man Bearded Philosopher

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    In the title you meant default*

     
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  13. Electra

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    I have never pretended to be good at spelling, lol, never caught up to it, at school '** spells like it sounds' well yea that's what makes sence to me
     
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    Epic Beard Man Bearded Philosopher

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  15. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Assuming "defult" is a typo meaning "default", I'm dyslexic so it took a few moments to sort that one out.

    By default... Is that meaning the start value (birth) or how you consider yourself if you reset now?.

    No one is born with belief, it is learned. So i put neither

    If you mean now, the answer would still be neither.
     
  16. SalixIncendium

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    Do you have any objective evidence to support this statement?
     
  17. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Objective? , As the mother of 3 children, i have personal evidence.

    Also there are plenty of papers on google scholar on the baby brain, baby intelegence, baby learning, child development etc.

    https://scholar.google.co.uk
     
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