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Republicans outraged over a Sikh praying at the RNC

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
1: Telling someone to kill themselves isn't a "death threat".
As if that makes it any better.
2: There is no evidence that any of those people were "liberals" - they're just random twitterers.
Who cares?
3: They were obviously not serious.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.



The fact is, had the tables been reversed and these comments been directed towards Dems, posters here would be raging.
 

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
1: Telling someone to kill themselves isn't a "death threat".
2: There is no evidence that any of those people were "liberals" - they're just random twitterers.
3: They were obviously not serious.

Oh, and I still can't help but notice that when you were presented two random republicans complaining about a Sikh prayer, you pounced on it to scrape republicans over the coals. And then when I point out tweets telling RNC speakers to kill themselves, you try and play it down as if it is nothing important.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
As if that makes it any better.
Who cares?
Whatever helps you sleep at night.



The fact is, had the tables been reversed and these comments been directed towards Dems, posters here would be raging.

Do you see me raging about the idiots who didn't want the Sikh to be allowed to speak?

There's no double standard, Apex. Some people are idiots. That's life.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Oh, and I still can't help but notice that when you were presented two random republicans complaining about a Sikh prayer, you pounced on it to scrape republicans over the coals. And then when I point out tweets telling RNC speakers to kill themselves, you try and play it down as if it is nothing important.

Don't blame me, blame science. Whether there are more idiotic, racist conservatives than liberals is a question of fact, not opinion. :D
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
It's no surprise that the republicans are the party of hate for the middle-lower class.

Just visit the Faux forum and read the comments. It's funny you don't see racist remarks on HP. It's also funny that the international community doesn't visit Faux. We can all have intellectual conversations elsewhere on the 'Liberal' sites just fine.

I hope the mantra of the campaign for Obama is all about fact-checking. The GOP will continue to lie through their teeth. They just love bringing up the fact that Obama eliminated work requirements for welfare. Which has been proven to be a lie.

Some people in America are duped, some are not. This is what separates the intelligent from the not-so.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Why are you focused on one intolerant voice, a blogger I never heard of until I saw this thread, instead of rejoicing with the others at the RNC who gladly welcome the invocations of the Rabbi on Tuesday, Christians yesterday, and the Sikh today?
Maybe I jumped the gun on that one. True, we're talking specifically about "one intolerant voice," but I do see this same kind of thinking pretty often among evangelical Christians. And it is specifically for this reason that I am wanting more and more all the time to distance myself from them.
 
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waitasec

Veteran Member
Because your attempt to demonize the RNC 2012 failed, you demonize the RNC 2008.

Incredible.
it's called wagging the dog...
and both parties are guilty of it...


and you failed in answering my question
if romney was not a mormon do you really think
religion would take such precedence at the RNC?
 
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tytlyf

Not Religious
if romney was not a mormon do you really think
religion would take such precedence at the RNC?
Are you serious to ask such a question? The Republican party (top 1%) will infuse religion into their politics to gain the support of ignorant conservatives. How else could the GOP win any election without infusing religion to take advantage of people who don't have their best interests?

Did you not listen to the RNC last night? It was religion all over the place. From Clint, to Rubio and finalizing with Mittens. It was a huge tidal wave of religion influence in their speeches.

President Obama doesn't need to work the religion issue for votes, he gets them without saying so.
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
Poisonshady313 said:
No. But you lose points for deciding that the flaws of a couple of Republican individuals = the flaws of the Republican party.

You wouldn't like it if a couple of jerks in whatever group you belong to were spoken of as if you share their bad attitude/behavior just because you belong to the same group.

I'm a Marxist Socialist. My party is demonized as a whole just on principle. :D
 

Poisonshady313

Well-Known Member
I'm a Marxist Socialist. My party is demonized as a whole just on principle. :D

On principle, yes.

Not on an individual tweet about a guy telling followers of a particular religion not to bow their heads.

I don't bow my head when Christians pray. Quick, start a thread about that.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
....if romney was not a mormon do you really think
religion would take such precedence at the RNC?
Oooo, oooo, oooo! Can I answer?
Romney's faith doesn't seem more prominent than religion usually is at their conventions,
but press coverage is certainly greater. But I imagine that if Santorum had won nomination,
religiosity would reign supreme.

I'm not bothered by candidates' religions....I'm bothered by their politics.
 
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InfidelRiot

Active Member
I'm not bothered by candidates' religions....I'm bothered by their politics.

Unfortunately, religion seems to play a bigger role with republican candidates than democrat candidates. Religion should not play a role at all in election, but attempting to inform that to the republicans and how the country was not based on Christianity is akin to informing them to forget to take their next breath.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Unfortunately, religion seems to play a bigger role with republican candidates than democrat candidates.
That could be.
I also see that the Dems inject their (less fundamentalist) faiths regularly, but with greater coyness.

Religion should not play a role at all in election, but attempting to inform that to the republicans and how the country was not based on Christianity is akin to informing them to forget to take their next breath.
I don't mind it having a role, so long as we avoid theocracy.
 

InfidelRiot

Active Member
I don't mind it having a role, so long as we avoid theocracy.

The way religion has a negative affect on something as simple as gay marriage is enough to convince me that an outright theocracy is not needed to still impact how God seems to be considered above rational thought.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The way religion has a negative affect on something as simple as gay marriage is enough to convince me that an outright theocracy is not needed to still impact how God seems to be considered above rational thought.
I'm no fan of religion, but it won't go away.
So we must lobby for what we value.
 

InfidelRiot

Active Member
I'm no fan of religion, but it won't go away.

You seem so certain.

Religion evolves as does man and thought processes. There was a time when man thought the Egyptian and Greek pantheon was real, but those gods have slipped into mythology. The same will eventually be stated for Christianity and all religious thought, until man understands that he is perfectly fine without a religious concept that has no value except misguided comfort.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You seem so certain.
Religion evolves as does man and thought processes. There was a time when man thought the Egyptian and Greek pantheon was real, but those gods have slipped into mythology. The same will eventually be stated for Christianity and all religious thought, until man understands that he is perfectly fine without a religious concept that has no value except misguided comfort.
I'm only certain that religion will be remain with us.
But I do hope that it will evolve in positive ways.
 
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