To understand Joseph Smith
archangel Michael was born on earth as Adam, the first mortal man. In the Mormon version of the creation story, Jesus Christ, who before his birth was the Jehovah of the Hebrew Bible, created the earth and all things on it at the direction of God the Father. This is a notion very similar to the beliefs of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Mormons believe that God is immortal and that He was once a man albeit a perfect and exalted man. God is not of another species, nor is he the great unknowable one; he is indeed our Father in heaven. God according to the Church of Latter-day Saints is literally the father of every human being. He has a body, and emotions like all human beings. They believe that from Mary, a mortal woman, Jesus inherited the capacity to die, and from God, an exalted being, he inherited the capacity to live forever.
three separate, distinct beings, God the Father, also called Elohim, Jesus Christ, who is also the Jehovah of the Old Testament and the Holy Ghost. Mormons also believe that there is more than one God and that human beings have the potential to become gods.
Moroni told Joseph about a record of the ancient inhabitants of the American continent (the Nephites) that was buried in a nearby hill and was written on thin metal sheets of gold.” Joseph found the plates near his home in Palmyra, New York. With heavenly inspiration, because Joseph did not understand the “reformed Egyptian” language written on the plates, he translated the book into English.The book was named the Book of Mormon after the ancient prophet who compiled it.
Along with the Book of Mormon, Mormons believe the Bible is sacred and like Muslims they believe that the words of God found in the Bible are a mixture of truth and error because many have been changed, or forgotten. However the Mormon version is in no way acceptable to Islam. The Mormon sacred scripture also includes a book called The Pearl of Great Price, which includes two lost books of the Bible, a translation of the Gospel of Matthew, and the 13 Articles of Faith; and The Doctrine and Covenants, a group of 138 revelations from God and two other official documents.
How about Joseph Smith's treasure hunting days, his tall tales, war with the United States Government, Controversies, Brigham Young, Brigham Young's Controversies, Adam as God Doctrine (Rejected), and the endless series of Man-Gods since time immemorial?
I'd also like to know all the dirt you can find on the founder of Sikhism and his Sufu friend, the founder of the Yezidi or who they love, and the Ismaeli Muslims (stemming from the Assassins but still ruled over by a man today).
Controversies about Paul and Paul as possibly Simon Magus or Simon Magus, and Marcion, and Valentinus.
Controversies regarding Augustine as well who is foundational to Christian thinking and whoever else.
Sully the names of all these people. That guy who fought the Caliphs, the Shia Founders too.
Throw in a few Jewish heretics while you're at it.
Include also the lies stated about Muhammed and why they aren't bad or are untrue or whatever (apologetics).
I think that would remain on topic for this thread, which we've basically hijacked (lol which is what we do).
This thread has been a wonderful collection of great writing. To sully the name of all the others (Polemics) is a useful rhetorical strategy in "proving" Islam.
I've focused mainly on requesting attacks and defamation on all Post-Muhammed figures mainly, and a few Post-Christ Christian ones.
Personally, none of these oo oo ah ah monkeys matter one bit to me. If someone found pictures, photographs and videos of Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) in the act of commiting hideous crimes, and blowing fire out of his nostrils or hennah colored snot, it would mean nothing to me, because the Qur'an is a collection of words, and these words can be used for good if one applies their intelligence, and to refer to the truth if one is cautious and patient, but can likewise, like any collection of words, be made fallacious in the hands of a dolt and a fool.
If a demonic pig version (Ganon/Ganondorf) of some person uttered words that could be made true, what does it matter the origin of the quote.
Should a people burn every mention if 2+2=4 after hearing how unattractive the first person who said it was, or even more obnoxiously, someone else who also said it was?
Muhammed is dead. If Muhammed was killed (which would only occur if God willed it), another would have uttered words of use. Likewise, another would have become the object of focus for people who love their bodies and need mommy's and daddy's to put their hopes and dreams in.
The Qur'an is babble to people who aren't allowed to understand how to make any use of it, just as the Vedas or Upanishads are lost on Puranic type literalists who can't understand or make good use of words.
Words are all these are and all that is left.
Whether Mutant Overlord Bab said anything of use, then make use of it, and if its all rubbish, even a person who doesn't otherwise sin can speak error and say 2+2=5. Even their error has use in looking into it and being inspired by it to counter it with the truth.
That is why the loss is to whoever can't make use or take advantage of things or who restricts themselves with their own made up taboos and kashrut laws and fetishes.
Otherwise, the whole of existence is made available to you, to pick from everything that is good and ripe and right, and put aside whatever does not compute, by our fault or the fault of the stars and the positioning of the words from our perspective.
Dirt upon the dead is useful so long as it leads one away from too much obsession and adoration upon a dead thing, dead even while it lived, like the face of the moon.
To give words life, one has to engage with them intelligently, filling them with the life giving blood of insight to run under their mundane surface.
The world is full of people judging poorly due to lame brains, they look at the body of the dog and never ask Lassie what they are trying to say, and so their innocence dies in the well, waiting for a dufus who never even realized that even dogs speak, with nothing to say.
2:26 (Modified Mohsin Khan)
Verily, Allah is not ashamed to set forth an example even of a mosquito (or gnat) or so much more when it is bigger (or less when it is smaller) than it. And as for those who believe, they know that it is the Truth from their Lord, but as for those who disbelieve, they say: "What did Allah intend by this example?" By it He misleads many, and many He guides thereby. And He misleads thereby only those who are Al-Fasiqun (the rebellious, disobedient to Allah).