Porn Exploits People

[InChrist]

InChrist, my question would be is how is porn different than a married couple doing the same thing in bed?

I would say that porn often depicts behavior which is violent or degrading especially toward women and encourages a mentally of pushing the envelope, as if these behaviors are normal, while at the same time increasing desires that can only be met with more and more deviant activities, such as sex with children.

What married people privacy of their bedroom is really their own business, but do you think it’s okay to walk into someone’s bedroom, sit down and watch their sexual activity? Would you do that? That’s what porn is; just watching people do something that’s supposed to be their business, private and intimate.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It is possible there are exceptions, as with anything, Yet, I still believe overall porn is detrimental to people.

Pornography addiction: A neuroscience perspective



And from the statistics I have heard and read (which I don’t have a link to at the moment) over 80 percent of women do not find working in the porn industry enjoyable.

You should say that to the twitch thots.....

you can clearly tell it's completely not enjoyable and they feel so forced to do it.

 

[QuestioningMind]

Did anyone bother to read the article or just react?

“Every day Pornhub is host to pornographic material that features racism, incest, and violence against women. The site is also known to have hosted videos of child sexual abuse and sex trafficking victims, such as in late 2019 when it was revealed that Pornhub hosted videos of a trafficked teenage girl being raped.

This was not an isolated incident.

For years, until late 2019, Pornhub hosted content from and promoted GirlsDoPorn as one of its featured partners even after requests were made to have the content removed by the women shown in the material AND while GirlsDoPorn was in court facing charges of trafficking (and more) from over 20 women that were used in the production of its material.”

Porn is addictive, changes brain chemistry, causes loneliness, damages real relationships and intimacy.
This isn’t about prudishness, my view is that porn is harmful and exploits people.

4 Ways Porn Use Causes Problems

What you should have said is that SOME porn is distasteful or even illegal. For SOME people porn can be addictive. For SOME people porn can lead to loneliness. For SOME people porn can damage relationships and intimacy. However, for most people none of that applies.

 

[InChrist]

I've heard the claims before.
None have been well reasoned or evidenced.
But I'm fair & balanced.
I watched neither your video nor any porn before commenting.

Well, whether you agree or not with my perspective, I appreciate your honesty.

 

[Milton Platt]

I think it’s time that people wake-up and realize or remember that porn is not healthy or harmless. It is not “good or nice”
Bodies are not commodities to be used, abused, brought and sold or viewed as merchandise for one’s selfish pleasure.
Those are some of my thoughts. Express yours if you like.
https://endsexualexploitation.org/a...-nice/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email
Pornhub and Free Porn Are Neither "Good" Nor "Nice" - National Center on Sexual Exploitation

One is being exploited by holding down a job of any kind, so.....

I agree with you that the sex industry in general can be abusive of those in it. I would think that good regulation would go a long way to resolving that. You cannot simply ban porn....the world is too interconnected. It would work no better than prohibition did in the U.S. A ban would drive it further underground and make things potentially worse for those in it.

There are many other issues at play, as well. Can you definitively define what is porn and what is not? If so, do so and support the standards you espouse as opposed to someone else's definitions and standards. Is porn only sex acts done on film or digital media? Is written erotica porn? If a husband and wife agree to film themselves during intercourse and post it to the internet, is it porn? Is it still porn if it is only shown to friends who ask to see it?
Are naked bodies porn? A naked breast? A nipple? A baby being breast fed? At one time in history, it was scandalous for a woman to show her ankles. Would that be porn? At another time in Europe, ladies of the court wore bodices so low their nipple showed. Was that porn?

Who gets to decide what is porn and what is art or just free expression?

 

[ChristineM]

It is possible there are exceptions, as with anything, Yet, I still believe overall porn is detrimental to people.

Pornography addiction: A neuroscience perspective


And from the statistics I have heard and read (which I don’t have a link to at the moment) over 80 percent of women do not find working in the porn industry enjoyable.

It seems the replies to this thread dont share your opinion

Is this the link?

...In fact, plenty of sex workers truly love what they do.

Glamour spoke to 15 women who work in different facets of the sex industry—porn performers, dominatrices, and cam models—about their choices to enter the business. Even beyond the financial freedom and the ability to travel that their career paths afford, many of them emphasized how they use their platforms to draw attention to social causes, highlight the contributions of marginalized communities, and help destigmatize sex. Below, in their own words, they tell us how they got their starts and what working in the sex industry has allowed them to accomplish...​

15 Sex Workers on Why—and How—They Got Into the Business

 

[Milton Platt]

What you should have said is that SOME porn is distasteful or even illegal. For SOME people porn can be addictive. For SOME people porn can lead to loneliness. For SOME people porn can damage relationships and intimacy. However, for most people none of that applies.

Yes, and the same can be said for watching pro sports....LOL

 

[columbus]

Yes, and the same can be said for watching pro sports....LOL

Also, religion.
Tom

 

[ChristineM]

I would say that porn often depicts behavior which is violent or degrading especially toward women and encourages a mentally of pushing the envelope, as if these behaviors are normal, while at the same time increasing desires that can only be met with more and more deviant activities, such as sex with children.

What married people privacy of their bedroom is really their own business, but do you think it’s okay to walk into someone’s bedroom, sit down and watch their sexual activity? Would you do that? That’s what porn is; just watching people do something that’s supposed to be their business, private and intimate.

Yes porn can have aspects of violence and degradation but you really have to look for it if thats what turns you on.

Does having intimate relations with your loved one increase your desire for deviant and/or illegal acts? No? Then why should you expect such acts even cross the mind of those who enjoy (and learn) from professionals?

Some people enjoy voyeurism, some couples get excitement from being watched.

No, if porn were supposed to be their private business there would be no porn, porn is everybody's (well most people's) business.

 

[InChrist]

You should say that to the twitch thots

you can clearly tell it's completely not enjoyable and they feel so forced to do it.

You must be truly gullible if you think because they are acting happy, they must be happy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...r-deaths-add-to-the-adult-industrys-pain/amp/



This Is What it’s Really Like to Work in Porn

 

[ChristineM]

You must be truly gullible if you think because they are acting happy, they must be happy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...r-deaths-add-to-the-adult-industrys-pain/amp/



This Is What it’s Really Like to Work in Porn

If you consider an article from the sun to be authoritative then you must be truly gullible

• Overall, we rate The Sun Right Biased based on story selection and political affiliation that favors the right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to overly sensationalized headlines and numerous failed fact checks.

The Sun - Media Bias/Fact Check

 

[Rival]

If you consider an article from the sun to be authoritative then you must be truly gullible

• Overall, we rate The Sun Right Biased based on story selection and political affiliation that favors the right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to overly sensationalized headlines and numerous failed fact checks.

The Sun - Media Bias/Fact Check

Lol The Sun, the newspaper that literally used to have porn in it.

 

[ChristineM]

Lol The Sun, the newspaper that literally used to have porn in it.

My dad still misses page 3.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I see what you are saying.

Since there are so many types of porn acts and we could be talking about two different things, I'll just keep it simple to two adult actors who are paid to have intercourse (male or female both or opposite) and choose to do it (no pun) to pay the bills.

I would say that porn often depicts behavior which is violent or degrading especially toward women and encourages a mentally of pushing the envelope, as if these behaviors are normal, while at the same time increasing desires that can only be met with more and more deviant activities, such as sex with children.

I'm not sure how "paid intercourse" (rather than sex between married partners) leads to unnatural sexual desires. Some people are asexual and don't have sexual desires so watching porn wouldn't do anything any more to a heterosexual watching porn and her libido is low. It's not the porn. It's the people.

The only harm I see porn doing is when (like murder) it promotes harm. Being paid to have intercourse does not cause harm.

Um. I'm not sure how adult male actors having sex with each other in the same category as sex with children???? Am I reading this wrong?

What married people privacy of their bedroom is really their own business, but do you think it’s okay to walk into someone’s bedroom, sit down and watch their sexual activity? Would you do that? That’s what porn is; just watching people do something that’s supposed to be their business, private and intimate.

The difference is porn is a movie; it's fiction. The example would be if two actors played husband and wife and they got paid to have sex in a movie. An adult who chooses to buy and watch the movie (on t.v.) is different than husband and wife who is not getting paid to have sex.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

You mean you've tried?

He may not, but I did. When there wasn't any other choice I was a sex worker. This is very long ago, when the Children's Aid Society dumped me on the streets of Toronto at 17 with nothing, nowhere to live, and no means of support -- and little training to find out what I could do, and as an emotionally scarred youth from years of being a battered child.

I am happy to say I got past it (I eventually made my way to VP of IT for an international financial institution -- against all the odds).

Now that I'm old, like @SalixIncendium , I suspect that I too might be paid to get dressed, rather than undressed.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

No it isn't. Simply look up "amateur porn." Or go to Pornhub, which is mentioned in your linked article, and type in "college party." There's a ton of unpaid porn performers. And as has been pointed out, unless you're a porn star there's truly very little money to be made.

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And the fact is -- as in any entertainment -- very, very few get to be stars that make a decent living at it.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I find your argument no more convincing than saying because the Bible speaks against gluttony this is one reason why so many people overeat and have weight or health problems.

Then you misunderstood his argument. It's not whether "gluttony" is kept out of the sight of people. It's whether eating one thing is declared immoral or deplorable or banned, or showing images of plates full of too much food. It's that which makes people more interested -- forbidden fruit is always more attractive than a withered apple.

 

[InChrist]

Then you misunderstood his argument. It's not whether "gluttony" is kept out of the sight of people. It's whether eating one thing is declared immoral or deplorable or banned, or showing images of plates full of too much food. It's that which makes people more interested -- forbidden fruit is always more attractive than a withered apple.

I think, although there may be varying degrees of immorality, from the biblical perspective all sin or wrong behavior is immoral.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I think, although there may be varying degrees of immorality, from the biblical perspective all sin or wrong behavior is immoral.

Why can you not just think as a human being, with feelings, motives and (most difficult of all) self-awareness? What is it about the Bible that forces you to include whatever it says into how you actually feel as a person? Aren't you strong enough on your own to be who you are?

 

[InChrist]

Why can you not just think as a human being, with feelings, motives and (most difficult of all) self-awareness? What is it about the Bible that forces you to include whatever it says into how you actually feel as a person? Aren't you strong enough on your own to be who you are?

I definitely have feelings , motives, and self-awareness and think like a human being, since I am one. But to answer you the best I can, I’ ll say that I am a changed human being because of the redemptive, wonderful love of Jesus and to me the Bible is no legalistic force, rather it’s God’s living, loving, powerful, communication every time I read it and it is exciting to see and understand life from the heart and mind of the One who created and loves me and all creation.